JasonParis
Moderator
Toronto is only 800,000 people behind L.A.-proper. We could surpass it as North America's third larget city in our lifetimes. It's unlikely we'd ever pass L.A.'s metro though.
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EllaW
New Member
I had to drive back and forth the extent of the above ground track today, and whatever the trains were doing (I saw maybe 6), it was not RSD.
urbanclient
Active Member
We were only 600k behind LA proper as of last year at just under 3.3 million vs. 3.9 million (sources below). The gap may have been closer to 400k when accounting for undercounted NPRs. The more pertinent issue is density. Toronto proper is 630 sqkm, LA proper is 1,290 sqkm.
Therefore, Toronto has the more densely-populated downtown or core city proper by US standards. However, the larger GTHA is much less populated than the smaller Los Angeles--Long Beach--Anaheim census urban area. None of the area sizes line up neatly, so apples to apples comparison is difficult. Whether or not you think Toronto is the bigger "city" depends on your definition of city.
Agree with the second point though. Southern California has 24-25 million people vs. Ontario 16-17 million and the whole state has a much larger everything than us.
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zang
Senior Member
I dunno. It depends on how bad climate change gets.
smallspy
Senior Member
While they haven't done any testing for the purposes of the RSD as it is not going to be part of the revenue service plan on day 1, they have operated and tested into the spare tracks at Laird many times and under many scenarios. The maneuver is sound.
They are still not able to build up to the amount of service that they need to in order to resume the RSD.
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pleaseLRT
New Member
Wait, RSD hasn't been resumed yet? Based on the posts here (page 1894), I thought it resumed back on Saturday, October 25. I've been seeing a bunch of trains run back and forth today as well - none of this is RSD?
If RSD is still paused, then I assume an opening by the Dec 21 board period is hopeless then
A 6264
Active Member
RSD is a state of mind, apparently.Wait, RSD hasn't been resumed yet? Based on the posts here (page 1894), I thought it resumed back on Saturday, October 25. I've been seeing a bunch of trains run back and forth today as well - none of this is RSD?
If RSD is still paused, then I assume an opening by the Dec 21 board period is hopeless then
urbanclient
Active Member
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cplchanb
Senior Member
like honestly.... they already determined an operator was daydreaming behind the wheel in the yard. this does not affect the main line. why are they not resuming RSD and if they still need to to verification testing why are they not running 24/7 to catch back up given the political and schedule impacts?
total fail again on all fronts.
total fail again on all fronts.
hw621
Senior Member
maybe they need to make sure the operators are not daydreaming behind the wheel on the main line...
TOtramz
Active Member
I find it very hard to believe that the ministry of transport would so publicly state that the RSD was back on all those days ago and have it be a total lie.
Also around the same time they announced RSD was back many posters on this forum seemed to corroborate with sightings of heavy train testing
Also around the same time they announced RSD was back many posters on this forum seemed to corroborate with sightings of heavy train testing
urbanclient
Active Member
For what it's worth I drove by at night this last weekend for over 10 minutes and saw exactly 0 trains on the surface section despite next train screens reading 6 and 16 minutes.I find it very hard to believe that the ministry of transport would so publicly state that the RSD was back on all those days ago and have it be a total lie.
Also around the same time they announced RSD was back many posters on this forum seemed to corroborate with sightings of heavy train testing
T3G
Senior Member
When did they determine this? Do you have a source?
cplchanb
Senior Member
pleaseLRT
New Member
Can confirm the trains are running today and have been running everyday since Oct 25 (the date users here started spotting the trains again after the pause) - I'm on Eglinton often so I'm able to see them multiple times a day
Source is The Star's article from Thursday, October 23
"Sarkaria, asked by reporters about the details of the incident, said the “minor incident happened between ... two trains in the maintenance yard, caused by human error.” He did not clarify further when asked by reporters.
“This is a very isolated incident and happened in the maintenance yard. It was not on the main line in any way, shape or form,” Sarkaria said, emphasizing that the incident could not happen on the main line, where trains would be ferrying passengers when the LRT opens."