Ok, then I think we are on the same page, as that is what I would support.
I don't think a train to Barrie with bus connection onward to Collingwood would be a successful venture.
At the very least, it would be nice to see this studied (if it already has not been?).
Of course that is true. We need to make it appealing.
A shuttle bus is a gap, true. But that gap will exist for users everywhere in almost every case, even in transit meccas. When people arrive at Union, many need to transfer (i.e to the subway). Functionally that isn't much different than a...
No, the goal should be to convince people they don't need to own a car at all.
Once they own cars, the battle is nearly lost before we start.
To do that you need a robust network with many regional destinations. Not only hubs of employment, but destinations that also offer education, recreation...
Yes our commuter train system caters to drivers who make up the majority. Go figure.
The past does not need to define the future.
You are missing the point of regional rail.
I bet you that the typical GO demographic is not the same group of people riding trains to Niagara Falls.
Yes, I understand how the 2/3 think. I am one of them. I have a vehicle too, and have always had one.
But building the future by catering towards them is silly.
We should be encouraging growth in the 1/3 demographic by creating a large regional transit network that gives people the ability to...
OK? I thought we are talking about the future here.
There is a large market of households in GTA without cars. I think something like 1/3 of Toronto households have no vehicle.
This trend is likely to keep increasing in the coming decades.
Preparing our public infrastructure to accommodate that...
It is not similar to Orangeville at all.
The route is much better than that, for one.
From a distance perspective, the route is probably better than even the competing roads to Collingwood.
Finally, the community at the end of the line is not comparable to Orangeville at all. It is also a hub...
Incredibly short sighted, but at least the ROW will be in tact.
Collingwood is a very fast growing community, which will likely at least double in population in the next twenty years, with numerous amenities for tourism increasing the temporary population even moreso. Angus will also likely see...
Seems incredibly short-sighted to close the line.
One day, Orangeville & Dufferin county might find that a direct connection to Pearson and/or Toronto via rail is valuable. Between Orangeville and Shelburne, Dufferin is expected to grow pretty significantly over the next 20 years.
Right now, in...
But even now, the rail schedules are pretty good. Our business is very schedule sensitive (construction) and I already use rail Toronto to Vancouver, to ship full containers. It has four or six day transit depending in the service. Price is better than road, and the logistics...
That statement is trotted out a lot as a strawman. First of all, the government would not need to spend $32b to purchase an ownership stake in the highway. The ownership of the highway lease is divided into 3-stakes and the government could in theory buy into that consortium.