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Bojaxs
Senior Member
To be fair, that was posted 3 years ago.
Before MX handed operations of Line 5 over to the TTC, they should have posted a more recent video demonstrating how fast the trams can travel underground. Including a speedometer, etc. That way, should the trams travel slower under TTC operations, MX can rightfully put the blame on the TTC for slow operations and riders know who to call out.
But I suppose that ship sailed on December 5th.
urbanclient
Active Member
Wild guessing here, but it appears the train is not hitting 80 km/h all the time, but this was 3 years ago, maybe an ION operator could chime in on what speeds they're hitting on the digital speedometer?
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urbanclient
Active Member
Inferring from a selective quote, along with vibes and moral judgements due to political bias does not come close to any standard of proof, and is unconvincing even for Urban Toronto.
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ssiguy2
Senior Member
The TTC seems to be going out of it's way to make this line as slow as humanely possible but, once again, who controls the TTC? The City! The TTC is just a glorified branch of City Hall. They control their budget and when you control the money, you control. Full stop. The TTC has to do what the City tells them to do.
This is NOT a operational issue but a political one and the blame lies at the foot of City Hall.
This is NOT a operational issue but a political one and the blame lies at the foot of City Hall.
nottoban
New Member
I think we’re mostly dealing with semantics.
From my perspective, because Metrolinx owns the vehicles and infrastructure and holds the contract with Mosaic, Metrolinx is the sole party who can direct Mosaic on any potential change. Any change from the baseline contract Mosaic will treat as a contract variation, and the change will be scoped and priced and charged back to Metrolinx. On that basis, TTC isn't permitted to deal with Mosaic directly without Metrolinx in the loop, which is why TTC is saying they need to confirm with both Metrolinx and Mosaic that they have permission to proceed.
That said, if Metrolinx’s contract already includes specific performance requirements, and Mosaic has already demonstrated that the delivered infrastructure can meet them, then there’s no change to authorize. Unless the change falls outside the project specifications, nothing new needs to be requested from Mosaic or approved by Metrolinx, because the capability is presumably already part of what was contracted, delivered, and accepted.
In my opinion, TTC’s statement that they need to discuss with Metrolinx and Mosaic was simply cautious and appropriately courteous (although perhaps a symptom of a general observation that TTC staff haven't fully wrapped their heads around how to work in an AFP setting and what changes are viable versus not). It would be awkward for TTC to appear to make absolute statements regarding what can and can't be done with infrastructure they don't own, even if they know the infrastructure already supports whatever performance the contract specifies. If Mosaic hadn’t delivered to the required specifications, the project wouldn’t have been accepted. And if anything sits outside the letter of the contract, it becomes a variation, paid by Metrolinx, regardless of who initiates the request.
micheal_can
Senior Member
Well, then he does not want it faster. He just wants to say he wants it faster. He has many options at his disposal, and the only think he seems to be doing is saying he wants it faster.
ssiguy2
Senior Member
And that is different from Chow how?
micheal_can
Senior Member
I don't think it is. The only difference it seems is that people are willing to defend Ford when he is doing nothing to fox a problem he could fix.
nfitz
Superstar
You've got us. We are all Ford lovers here. I guess you've missed the endless praise for our dear leader in his very own 13,000+ post thread - https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/premier-doug-fords-ontario.28523
micheal_can
Senior Member
I am not aware of that forum. The thing is, I am seeing some on here that are saying he is pro transit among other things. It isn't everyone, but, still it is still enough. At best, he is neutral on transit. At worst,he is one of the worst Premiers in our history. When I think of the worst Premiers they all seem to be PCs.
narduch
Senior Member
You can literally pin point the beginning of the demise of Toronto (and Ontario) with the election of Doug Ford in 2018.
He is running the province into the ground while he fills his own pockets (and his donors pockets too)
nfitz
Superstar
I haven't seem any Premier do anything like he's done on Transit since Premier Davis, and I think he's surpassed that. He may even be exceeding Premier Robarts - who was truly transformational.
It doesn't mean I respect him, or would ever vote for him.
micheal_can
Senior Member
So, filling in a subway... this subway is better?
Bojaxs
Senior Member
Good grief! Put @micheal_can on your ignore list! Look how easily he derails threads with his nonsense!
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