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Roads: Ontario/GTA Highways Discussion

Yeah it seems like future-proofing to me. When HWYs 6 and 7 are complete it will also form a ring with HWYs 8 and 401, so that has to be taken into account in addition to the continuity of the HWY 6 corridor south of the 401. Said ring would service a current population of ~850,000 between both Waterloo and Guelph metros.
I suspect that especially once new 7 is complete, we'll start to see the gradual merging of Guelph into KW. The urban boundary gap is already only ~10km. Might not ever fill in completely, but it will definitely shrink.
 
I suspect that especially once new 7 is complete, we'll start to see the gradual merging of Guelph into KW. The urban boundary gap is already only ~10km. Might not ever fill in completely, but it will definitely shrink.
I think the city would fight any efforts to move it from a stand-alone single tier municipality into a lower tier regional municipality.
 
I suspect that especially once new 7 is complete, we'll start to see the gradual merging of Guelph into KW. The urban boundary gap is already only ~10km. Might not ever fill in completely, but it will definitely shrink.

Based upon the update to Waterloo Region's Official Plan (ROPA 6) Breslau can extend all the way to Shantz Station Road, which brings the boundary within 6km. However if more sprawl happens in KW it will be towards Guelph so it may connect, you will not see KW sprawl to the west or south, since the main aquifer that provides 80% of the Region's drinking water has its primary recharge area in those areas.

There are already subdivision plans in the works for areas along New 7 but I don't know how much of them are public so you will likely be correct.
 
Small rant but what's with all the drivers crossing the HOV buffer whenever they please? Seems like this is not being enforced because drivers are zig-zagging in and out all the time.

As someone who is trying to obey the law, this is frustrating AF and seems dangerous for those who may not be prepared to be cut off. What can be done to enforce this- more police, bollards in the buffer, just get rid of the buffer, etc?

It really got to me on my last trip to Toronto. Also annoying are the acceleration lane queue jumpers but at least those are dashed lines and not signed DO NOT CROSS.

Also makes pieces of infrastructure like that dedicated in/out spot for HOVs on the 400 seem like a total waste.
 
HOV rules seem to go out the window whenever there is traffic or a miniscule faster option. Simply lack of enforcement imo

I drive the hwy 25 stretch through Milton daily and see some craziness, my preference would be for the lane classification be removed
 
Small rant but what's with all the drivers crossing the HOV buffer whenever they please? Seems like this is not being enforced because drivers are zig-zagging in and out all the time.

As someone who is trying to obey the law, this is frustrating AF and seems dangerous for those who may not be prepared to be cut off. What can be done to enforce this- more police, bollards in the buffer, just get rid of the buffer, etc?

It really got to me on my last trip to Toronto. Also annoying are the acceleration lane queue jumpers but at least those are dashed lines and not signed DO NOT CROSS.

Also makes pieces of infrastructure like that dedicated in/out spot for HOVs on the 400 seem like a total waste.
my experience is a lot of people simply don't even realize you aren't allowed to cross the buffer.

The province is reviewing HOVs - or at least a review was promised in the PC election platform. We'll see what, if any, changes come from that to them.

Interestingly the speed change lanes on the 400 were not included on the portion from King Rd to Highway 9 - those are the more traditional HOV design. Only from Major Mackenzie to King Rd has them.
 
Small rant but what's with all the drivers crossing the HOV buffer whenever they please? Seems like this is not being enforced because drivers are zig-zagging in and out all the time.

As someone who is trying to obey the law, this is frustrating AF and seems dangerous for those who may not be prepared to be cut off. What can be done to enforce this- more police, bollards in the buffer, just get rid of the buffer, etc?

It really got to me on my last trip to Toronto. Also annoying are the acceleration lane queue jumpers but at least those are dashed lines and not signed DO NOT CROSS.

Also makes pieces of infrastructure like that dedicated in/out spot for HOVs on the 400 seem like a total waste.
I am not sure any enforcement goes on with HOV. And to think of it, there does not seem to be enforcement of much in the way of driving laws on the 400 series highways. It is very rare to see any OPP, until you get to the eastern portions of the 401 (QC border through Cornwall and beyond) where they always seem to be out and enforcing. Anecdotally there seem to be a lot of single user vehicles using these HOV lanes.
 
my experience is a lot of people simply don't even realize you aren't allowed to cross the buffer.

The HOV buffer zone is double white striped with slashes with DO NOT CROSS signs littered throughout the highway. Saying you didn't realize you're not allowed to cross the buffer seems inexcusable.

Interestingly the speed change lanes on the 400 were not included on the portion from King Rd to Highway 9 - those are the more traditional HOV design. Only from Major Mackenzie to King Rd has them.

That's good. Maybe that transfer zone was just a experiment that the MTO concluded was a failure and went back to the regular weave zones afterwards. A good idea in concept sure, but in reality people are outright ignoring the buffer zones anyway.
 
The HOV buffer zone is double white striped with slashes with DO NOT CROSS signs littered throughout the highway. Saying you didn't realize you're not allowed to cross the buffer seems inexcusable.



That's good. Maybe that transfer zone was just a experiment that the MTO concluded was a failure and went back to the regular weave zones afterwards. A good idea in concept sure, but in reality people are outright ignoring the buffer zones anyway.
I don't disagree. I just know that I have been in a car with someone multiple times who (somehow) had no idea.
 
HOV lanes cause a lot of very bad behaviours on highways. You have the people who dive right for the HOV lane (I suppose for the novelty factor) to drive 95 in a 100 zone because they have 2 people in the car despite the highway being freeflowing. When this happens, you get a stream of people crossing the buffer to pass them on the right.
 
I wonder if making the HOV lanes open access would help. I know there are lots of examples in the states. I don't see why it would hurt to pilot such a thing.
 

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