nfitz
Superstar
Why would they not run TRs on Line 2 again? They've certainly run them on Line 2 before, in a pinch (and Line 3 used to flash then)!
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zang
Senior Member
More based on the assumption the line's getting newer rolling stock, so why would the older stuff ever appear on the line? That said, I wasn't aware that they'd ever run on Line 2. Was there a stated reason for it?
zang
Senior Member
I'd forgotten about the blinking. That said, I believe they're addressable, meaning each station light can be individually lit.
jordanmkasla2009
Active Member
back in the summer of 2016 TRs were being used on Line 2 to supplement service while many of the T1s had their HVAC systems replaced.
nfitz
Superstar
Deliveries of the new trains won't start until next decade. And it took them about 8 years to deliver the approximately 80 new train sets.
With the typical delays, etc., it could be pushing 2040 before all 70 of the new train sets are here. And if the Yonge North extension opens before the Line 2 extension, I wouldn't be surprised if the first trains end up on Line 1, as there's currently more spares for Line 2 than Line 1.
In addition to those heat issues, where the TR usage was quite consistent for a few weeks; any time there's a problem with deploying trains from Greenwood, TR trains will appear on Line 2 to provide at least some service. There's been at least once incident where there was a problem in the tunnel connecting to the yard, in the early AM.
Before the TR trains came, it wasn't unusual to see T1 trains from Wilson on Line 2, and H cars on Line 1, during incidents.
Yes, when I've ridden TR trains on Line 2, the lights behaved properly, as if they were on Line 2.
Mind_the_gap
Active Member
Two years ago...
What annoys me is they printed those TR maps as if lights are supposed to appear behind Line 5/6 station/stops, fully knowing that they'll never be replaced.
They should've just left white dots like they did with the T1 Line 2 signs.
They should sure as hell be able to make those interchange stations flash.
What annoys me is they printed those TR maps as if lights are supposed to appear behind Line 5/6 station/stops, fully knowing that they'll never be replaced.
They should've just left white dots like they did with the T1 Line 2 signs.
A 6264
Active Member
Question you would probably know the answer to: The Wikipedia article on Line 2, in the section titled "Depot", suggests the line isn't using the newest trains because they can't be stored at the Greenwood yard.
"The Greenwood Yard will be inadequate as it is completely full with no room to expand, and because its facilities are optimized for two-car train sets rather than the six-car train sets of the proposed new fleet."
From that, I gather that when T1 trains are put in the yard, they are broken down to 2-car groups, and that's why they can't hold the Rocket trains, or at least, not enough of them. Is all that still true?
nfitz
Superstar
Pretty much, that's still true. Which is why the 70 new trains are designed to both have continuous walkways, and be broken down into 2-car groups (though obviously the centre group will have to be different - and the two end groups will have to be rotated in the correct direction). I wonder how much mix-and-matching the trains will have after a few decades of stuff happening.
toronto647
Active Member
Assuming the RSD ends today, when would they:
a) Announce the opening date of the Eglinton LRT?
b) Actually open the Eglinton LRT?
I’m hoping it might open by Sunday, January 4, just in time for the new semester / back to work after the holidays —maybe even announced around Christmas as a bit of a holiday gift?
Love to hear your thoughts on a and b above
a) Announce the opening date of the Eglinton LRT?
b) Actually open the Eglinton LRT?
I’m hoping it might open by Sunday, January 4, just in time for the new semester / back to work after the holidays —maybe even announced around Christmas as a bit of a holiday gift?
Love to hear your thoughts on a and b above
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
The Julian calendar is currently 13 days behind the Gregorian calendar. So If we didn't convert to the Gregorian calendar by the British Calendar Act of 1751, we would still be in 2025.
jordanmkasla2009
Active Member
if substantial completion is achieved by next week they could theoretically open it with the start of the next board period on December 21. More realistically they would open it on January 4 which is the start of the board period after next.
nfitz
Superstar
If it's ready to open on December 21 (and why wait until a board period - Line 6 didn't), then I can't imagine they'd for a second consider opening it in 2026 instead of 2025. The optics would be terrible if it slips another year.
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McGillicuddy
New Member
There's more than one sort of optics, though. If Doug Ford wants lots of media attention at the event where he formally opens the line, he's not going to schedule it during a period when lots of people are travelling and ignoring the news. In this sense, I think you're dead on with December 21: I can imagine a blackout period from December 22 to January 4.
Mind you, if they think the line's going to be a flop, maybe opening it on a sleepy Sunday over the holidays is the best-case scenario. (And maybe Doug Ford won't be too eager to cut the ribbon himself.)
Mind you, if they think the line's going to be a flop, maybe opening it on a sleepy Sunday over the holidays is the best-case scenario. (And maybe Doug Ford won't be too eager to cut the ribbon himself.)
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
I was trying to tell someone that on Reddit, but they were convinced that it was an extra month that the TTC was testing the line and would be doing that with Eglinton as well
Obsidian
Active Member
Substantial completion will happen 2 weeks earlier (1 week after RSD) on Eglinton than it did on Finch. So a 2025 opening is still in the cards.