Toronto Pinnacle One Yonge | 351.85m | 106s | Pinnacle | Hariri Pontarini

hansboyca said:
Depending on the time of day, this will knock out one of the five lifts which will serve floors 57 to 105. Of course, these are the very floors which residents have paid more for, sometimes much more. I can't imagine their consenting to have poorer elevator service than the hoi polloi on the lower decks.
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It will be interesting to see how it's handled. During low-volume hours (outside of commuting periods) it won't likely be noticeable, but only dinner and to some extent lunch are likely to place any noticeable demand on the service, so maybe commutes back up to the suite will take longer while dinner guests are served?

I would be surprised if condo suite purchase deeds had any reference to promised levels of elevator service (if that does form a part of others deeds, please let me know!), so there'd be little anyone could do in that regard. Now, how the condo corp or corps are set up in this building may come into play here. Does the condo corp end up owning the restaurant? Are they responsible for making sure it runs smoothly and is not a drain on condo corp finances? Or is the restaurant owned by whatever entity owns the hotel (to be run by Marriott as a Meridien)? Or is the restaurant owned separately?

Inquiring minds want to know! (I have begun posing more restaurant questions to Pinnacle's PR firm, and got a "no details yet" response).

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interchange42 said:
It will be interesting to see how it's handled. During low-volume hours (outside of commuting periods) it won't likely be noticeable, but only dinner and to some extent lunch are likely to place any noticeable demand on the service, so maybe commutes back up to the suite will take longer while dinner guests are served?

I would be surprised if condo suite purchase deeds had any reference to promised levels of elevator service (if that does form a part of others deeds, please let me know!), so there'd be little anyone could do in that regard. Now, how the condo corp or corps are set up in this building may come into play here. Does the condo corp end up owning the restaurant? Are they responsible for making sure it runs smoothly and is not a drain on condo corp finances? Or is the restaurant owned by whatever entity owns the hotel (to be run by Marriott as a Meridien)? Or is the restaurant owned separately?

Inquiring minds want to know! (I have begun posing more restaurant questions to Pinnacle's PR firm, and got a "no details yet" response).

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Are they confirmed that a restaurant / food service is to be included? They've gone back and forth on this a couple of times now.
 
Yonge sidewalk slowly taking shape.

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ProjectEnd said:
Are they confirmed that a restaurant / food service is to be included? They've gone back and forth on this a couple of times now.
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It was part of their press release coinciding with the visit to the 100th level.

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“Residents and guests will live, gather, and dine at Pinnacle One Yonge, and we look forward to inviting the world to experience everything we will be offering, including the restaurant on the 106th floor."
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That's gonna be a pricey overcooked steak
 
A Penthouse by definition is on the top floor, or at least the top residential floor. Pinnacle reportedly wants $30M for the full floor on 105. How could anyone justify that kind of money when "the riffraff" will be stomping on your head above on 106 - no insulation completely deadens the thudding of movement or heels on hardwood, assuming there will be any special sound dampening materials used at all. It matters little if it's for a restaurant or an amenity space. The exclusivity of the unit will be completely lost. I suspect that if they go ahead with this plan the Penthouse will end up being split into several units, as it was in Aura when they could find no buyer for the full floor.
 
NIL OMNI said:
A Penthouse by definition is on the top floor, or at least the top residential floor. Pinnacle reportedly wants $30M for the full floor on 105. How could anyone justify that kind of money when "the riffraff" will be stomping on your head above on 106 - no insulation completely deadens the thudding of movement or heels on hardwood, assuming there will be any special sound dampening materials used at all. It matters little if it's for a restaurant or an amenity space. The exclusivity of the unit will be completely lost. I suspect that if they go ahead with this plan the Penthouse will end up being split into several units, as it was in Aura when they could find no buyer for the full floor.
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That's an astute point. Actually, when the height was increased to 106 storeys, the 105th floor was initially divided into two units, both of which had pop-up second storeys into the 106th floor. Those pop-up areas would have shared the space with the observation area. This latest announcement reduced the 105th-floor to a single unit without the pop-up second floor. I guess the observation area has bitten the dust. It' all seems very back-of-the-napkin planning to me.
 
NIL OMNI said:
A Penthouse by definition is on the top floor, or at least the top residential floor. Pinnacle reportedly wants $30M for the full floor on 105. How could anyone justify that kind of money when "the riffraff" will be stomping on your head above on 106 - no insulation completely deadens the thudding of movement or heels on hardwood, assuming there will be any special sound dampening materials used at all. It matters little if it's for a restaurant or an amenity space. The exclusivity of the unit will be completely lost. I suspect that if they go ahead with this plan the Penthouse will end up being split into several units, as it was in Aura when they could find no buyer for the full floor.
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I don't believe that's true. Both the Lightbox and the Four Seasons Centre are totally silent inside despite both being beside streetcar lines and the latter also having a subway run past it. The trick is spending enough to acoustically separate the spaces, typically through the floors being carried on giant rubber pucks. Anyone spending $30M on the penthouse is going to demand silence from above in a sales contract, and if they don't, it's their own fault.

Anyway, a 106th floor restaurant is not going to fill up with stomping riffraff unless they do everything wrong.

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interchange42 said:
Anyway, a 106th floor restaurant is not going to fill up with stomping riffraff unless they do everything wrong.

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I enjoyed that last bit; made me picture a 106th floor McDs with the after clubbing kids at 3am on a Friday as patrons.....
 
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Towered said:
The idea of a restaurant on the 106th floor here is hot. I wonder if they'll let me in?
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They haven't said what their dress code will be, but I suspect it'll be dress tights only!

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