Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[a2z]

We saw these signs this morning and my son was sooooooooo excited. Now I'll have to go up to Finch to ride the streetcar. Any destinations up there for a six year old?

Plaza Latina seems like the most interesting thing along that stretch of Finch!

 

[APTA-2048]

The Finch line MSF might be a cool place to get off and check out. Though, I haven’t been there since construction ended, so I don’t know if they built a big, tall wall around everything. That would suck.

 

[A 6264]

I was trying to figure out what changed between your pic and what I posted on Nov 15 and it's literally just that the red border is thicker. MX needs to make up its mind

I didn't realize the sign had been updated to show the line number, before it changed again. That's crazy!

 

[A 6264]

I was trying to figure out what changed between your pic and what I posted on Nov 15 and it's literally just that the red border is thicker. MX needs to make up its mind

The forum allowed me to edit my post from this morning, and I was able to add a clip of your picture from Nov 15. Hope you don't mind!

 

[pleaseLRT]

The forum allowed me to edit my post from this morning, and I was able to add a clip of your picture from Nov 15. Hope you don't mind!

Not at all. Your documentation of the signage changes is appreciated

 

[ARG1]

At this point, I dont even think Metrolinx understands their own wayfinding designs.

It's because the standard is bad, and Metrolinx has absolutely heard feedback supporting that conclusion. I'd frankly be more annoyed if there wasn't any sort of refinement because stubbornly sticking to a flawed standard is the worst thing they could do right now.

 

[zang]

It's because the standard is bad, and Metrolinx has absolutely heard feedback supporting that conclusion. I'd frankly be more annoyed if there wasn't any sort of refinement because stubbornly sticking to a flawed standard is the worst thing they could do right now.

They’re like the corporate embodiment of Doug ford himself. Opaque, mistake-prone and stubborn as all hell.

 

[Johnny Au]

One of my friends also mentioned that the Metrolinx symbol seemed red compared to the TTC. Checking the wayfinding standards:

• Metrolinx (PDF page 94) says the colour is Pantone 165 C or #d24619
• TTC (PDF page 13) is using Pantone 021 or #eb8738

The difference is larger than I expected:
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Metrolinx's orange is close to International Orange, the same colour as the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco.

 

[EnviroTO]

So on November 25th they switched closer to MX wayfinding standard (except for their using the LRV space invader icon) by moving away from the round wheelchair icon unique to this line to explaining that an elevator exists here. Then they moved further away from that with some strange border?? I don't get it... what is this border going to be for a multiple line / multiple operator situation? It doesn't make any sense.

 

[Johnny Au]

Just now on the 1978 concourse:

Vending machines! The yellow one dispenses candy.

 

[McGillicuddy]

I do wonder if vending machines mean the TTC is giving up on the Cedarvale newsstand.

Given how retail leases usually work, and given how tight the margins are on subway newsstands, I have to imagine that, in an environment like Cedarvale (where there's only one retail unit), the tenant would demand a clause protecting their core business from competition within the station. (Covering stuff like soft drinks, candy, chips, periodicals, etc.)

In that sense, the vending machine may represent the TTC giving up on that lease: the space has been vacant for years, and they don't expect to fill it any time soon.

 

[JasonParis]

Although, the counter-argument may be, if they can't foresee it working at a busy interchange station, how can they foresee retail working anywhere currently?

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Just now on the 1978 concourse:

Vending machines! The yellow one dispenses candy.

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What? No hamburger or french fries vending machines at least?

 

[Mind_the_gap]

I wonder if that thick orange border is meant to signify that this station will be under Ontario Line construction for years. That to me is the only plausible reason for this update at Don Valley.

The TTC used orange for notices:

Source

Edit: Yea, GO does this too:

Source

 

[Steve X]

I do wonder if vending machines mean the TTC is giving up on the Cedarvale newsstand.

Given how retail leases usually work, and given how tight the margins are on subway newsstands, I have to imagine that, in an environment like Cedarvale (where there's only one retail unit), the tenant would demand a clause protecting their core business from competition within the station. (Covering stuff like soft drinks, candy, chips, periodicals, etc.)

In that sense, the vending machine may represent the TTC giving up on that lease: the space has been vacant for years, and they don't expect to fill it any time soon.

Those shops are closed in the evenings and expensive to staff. Plus a flash mob could have easily stole a lot of goods set out. We’ll likely see more automation services in the future.