King Street (Streetcar Transit Priority)

[DSCToronto]

This looks like TTC's own crew. They do seem to have become very adept at doing this work very efficiently!

I think they always use TTC crews for the actual track laying (certainly for special trackwork) and rely on general contactors for the 'regular construction'. Makes sense as they do enough regular track laying for there to be a constant need for experienced workers.

 

[nfitz]

I think they always use TTC crews for the actual track laying (certainly for special trackwork) and rely on general contactors for the 'regular construction'. Makes sense as they do enough regular track laying for there to be a constant need for experienced workers.

I think you are correct. Though I don't think they used TTC workers for laying track for some of the Leslie track work a few years ago - which didn't end well.

 

[GameOnBrad]

I wonder.

I noticed this at Queen and Broadview on the weekend and I've also seen this on the QQ for buses. I'm curious if they plan to do this for sections of King Street as well or is this just a special circumstance?

 

[DSCToronto]

I wonder.

I noticed this at Queen and Broadview on the weekend and I've also seen this on the QQ for buses. I'm curious if they plan to do this for sections of King Street as well or is this just a special circumstance?

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The City are clearly doing more road painting (in both red and green) as it has proved fairly (if not 100%) successful in reminding vehicles to keep off or out! There are also red painted areas on Queens Quay West (which have been there for several years) and on The Esplanade.

 

[reinventingthewheel]

I wonder.

I noticed this at Queen and Broadview on the weekend and I've also seen this on the QQ for buses. I'm curious if they plan to do this for sections of King Street as well or is this just a special circumstance?

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I’ve not seen it described in any plans but it absolutely should replace the hashed, faded sections of paint at most of King’s restricted intersections.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

I wonder.

I noticed this at Queen and Broadview on the weekend and I've also seen this on the QQ for buses. I'm curious if they plan to do this for sections of King Street as well or is this just a special circumstance?

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If they used cobblestones, the rough ride would nudge the SUV driver off the tracks.

The automobile lobby forced the city to create the smooth surface between the streetcar tracks so that they would get more road space for the automobile to use.

 

[DSCToronto]

I’ve not seen it described in any plans but it absolutely should replace the hashed, faded sections of paint at most of King’s restricted intersections.

I think they mean different things:

RED means it's a TRANSIT ONLY LANE

GREEN means it's CYCLIST LANE

YELLOW HATCHING means you should not enter the box if you cannot leave it - "Don't Block the Box"

 

[Northern Light]

I wonder.

I noticed this at Queen and Broadview on the weekend and I've also seen this on the QQ for buses. I'm curious if they plan to do this for sections of King Street as well or is this just a special circumstance?

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Hmmm, I just checked streetview to remind myself...........and as at 2023, EB to NB left turns are only restricted 7am-7pm. You can't have cars making lefts here from the curb lane.

If this is TTC only, great! But then the left turn restriction should be absolute, 24/7.

Has this been changed since 2023?

 

[reinventingthewheel]

I think they mean different things:

RED means it's a TRANSIT ONLY LANE

GREEN means it's CYCLIST LANE

YELLOW HATCHING means you should not enter the box if you cannot leave it - "Don't Block the Box"

I was referring to these:

Red paint would be a lot more clear than all the signage.

 

[DSCToronto]

I was referring to these:
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Red paint would be a lot more clear than all the signage.

Yes, that faded yellow means nothing! I think the problem with red paint is that it means ONLY transit can go there, on King other vehicles CAN go on all blocks but just can't go straight through. The signage would be clearer if there were not exceptions for taxis overnight but the way they have set the traffic lights has helped. Regular vehicles never get a plain green light at King & Church (or do they vary it when cabs are allowed to go straight??) - generally non-transit get green arrows and there is a green transit only signal and a green bike signal. Though I also wish it was clearer, in fact there really are very few vehicles driving straight down King (when it is open at all!!) compared to the way it was before the Transit Mall Project started.

 

[max]

Hmmm, I just checked streetview to remind myself...........and as at 2023, EB to NB left turns are only restricted 7am-7pm. You can't have cars making lefts here from the curb lane.

If this is TTC only, great! But then the left turn restriction should be absolute, 24/7.

Has this been changed since 2023?

Looking at @GameOnBrad 's photo the No-Left sign is barely visible next to the right side signal. To my eye it doesn't look like there are any time restrictions on it below the symbol, just the caveat that TTC Vehicles are excepted.

If there's a higher resolution or zoomed in photo you could share @GameOnBrad then we could be certain without waiting for someone to pay a visit.

 

[DSCToronto]

From Sept 2023 Streetview this is the north side of King/Church going west\\

This is south side

This is east side of Church, south side of King.

This is east side of Church, north side f King.

 

[daptive]

Ontario really needs to update their Highway Traffic Act to allow more flexible signalling and signage! How is reading a novel at every intersection safe or effective?

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

In Europe, they ban all cars from their city centres. Except for deliveries and taxis. Car-sharing vehicles are also banned as well.

 

[nfitz]

In Europe, they ban all cars from their city centres.

Even if that was on-topic, that's absurd. I've driven cars in many a European city centre - even big ones.

But I haven't driven one on Sparks Street in Ottawa.

Are you trying to get yourself blocked or something? These non-sequiturs have been becoming increasingly frequent in recent days. And I say this because I don't want to see them block you again!