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That sounds impractical.
My father was in construction, that's what they do. If the sand or gravel is clean, why not. When they dig the foundation for high-rises, they grind the rocks and even the bedrock into aggregate. They create mounds of aggregate for their own concrete foundations. They even grind old sidewalk concrete to be recycled into new concrete aggregate.
 
There are TBMs that are designed to be deconstructed into themselves and dragged out of the tunnel. I had done that for a large diameter TBM used to dig some escalator shafts down to an existing deep station. But it is incredibly time consuming to demobilize and the internals and shells need to be constructed to facilitate that dismantling (e.g. the shells would have a reverse keystone top segment that gets lowered, then the side segments could be rotated inwards).
There absolutely are. And they're usually more expensive than the EPBM-type machines that need to be used in Toronto.

It is also very impractical to use such a large TBM for such a short run - about 550 metres. So they aren't.

Dan
 
3 years to dig 500 metres?
Is this due to the inherent limitations of mining, soil conditions or both?
It's two bores, so 1100 metres of tunnel in total.

But yes, in many conditions mining is slower than using a TBM. The process has to be done in a very particular manner in order to not destabilize the soil above.

Dan
 
It's two bores, so 1100 metres of tunnel in total.

But yes, in many conditions mining is slower than using a TBM. The process has to be done in a very particular manner in order to not destabilize the soil above.

Dan
If I remember correctly from TYSSE, you could advance a ring length (maybe 1.2m) in 1-2 hours, so maybe 5-7 in a shift.
 
Looks like a traditional pre-war neighborhood, not something built in the late 50's.
It's an interesting part of the city - the area to the north developed much earlier than than the valley which came as part of Smythe's redevelopment of his gravel yard depicted in @W. K. Lis's earlier post (and gave the area its name - Rockcliffe-Smythe):

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It's an interesting part of the city - the area to the north developed much earlier than than the valley which came as part of Smythe's redevelopment of his gravel yard depicted in @W. K. Lis's earlier post (and gave the area its name - Rockcliffe-Smythe):

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Another thing that was once in the area but is just out of view in your image is the dumping area the TTC had just next to Avon Loop (at Rogers Road and Weston). It was accessed from a spur track off of the Weston Streetcar and I believe the TTC dumped ash (among other things) from their power plants there (they used to do this at a dumping site at Fleet and Angelique Streets). This dump was active until 1960 and today is the site of St.Maria Separate School. An interesting thing about this spur was it was unpowered so work cars going to and from it would have what was essentially an extension cord attached to their trolley poles linking them to the main line power.

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It's an interesting part of the city - the area to the north developed much earlier than than the valley which came as part of Smythe's redevelopment of his gravel yard depicted in @W. K. Lis's earlier post (and gave the area its name - Rockcliffe-Smythe):

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Much of that housing of today in that area is in a floodplain. The city continues to get complaints about basement flooding and worse from downpours in the spring, summer, and fall. Hurricane Hazel (the storm, not the former Mississauga Mayor) flooded Eglinton Flats and depositing fresh silt, hence no housing.

Most of Eglinton Flats is in a floodplain, hence the reason for the elevated portion of the Line 5 extension between Scarlett Road and Weston Road.
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From https://trca.ca/conservation/flood-risk-management/flood-plain-map-viewer/

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Black Creek overflows onto Humber Boulevard North during the rain storm of July 2013 that brought record levels of water .

From https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/city-ombudsman-investigating-handling-of-black-creek-flooding/article_8127d905-ebdc-5030-b22b-6c048dee3247.html
 
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Nothing's yet been submitted but the owners of the industrial lots here have been planning an OPA and rezoning for a few years now, right in the middle of that flood plain...

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Jane Park Plaza (Jane Street & Alliance Avenue) is not NOW in a floodplain because they raised the plaza up onto a berm to be ABOVE the floodplain. Those industrial lots would also have to be raised up onto a berm. However, doing so could create a "dam", making the possible flood waters upstream higher. Hence, the opposition from the neighbourhood.

Maybe the industrial buildings should be on stilts, so the first floor can be flooded in such a situation. The first floor could be used for deliveries or vehicle storage.

One reason for the elevated portion of the Line 5 extension through Eglinton Flats is because it is in a floodplain. When they built Eglinton Avenue West through Eglinton Flats, it was on a berm to get it above the floodplain. If you notice in the floodplain image (See https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-eglinton-line-5-crosstown-west-extension-m-s-metrolinx.28144/post-2198442), Eglinton Avenue West and Jane Street are both above the possible waters of a flood, being on landfilled berms.
 
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