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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

cplchanb said:
Verster needs to resign after this. He has completely thrown the entire project in disarray and is hiding it with politically correct status updates
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Verster has issues, but doesn't a lot of this come from the fact that a P3 means metrolinx's hands are pretty tied on what they can do and say legally?

Seems like the contract split on newer projects try and address this by keeping contracts small enough that they could threaten to cancel and re-contract. That wasn't an option with this project, as any threats would basically mean crosslinx can bankrupt themselves and walk away, leaving everything incomplete.
 
tsm1072 said:
Verster has issues, but doesn't a lot of this come from the fact that a P3 means metrolinx's hands are pretty tied on what they can do and say legally?

Seems like the contract split on newer projects try and address this by keeping contracts small enough that they could threaten to cancel and re-contract. That wasn't an option with this project, as any threats would basically mean crosslinx can bankrupt themselves and walk away, leaving everything incomplete.
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Not when he publicly wars against CTS which essentially pits everyone against each other. There's no incentive to push for the finish when it's being held under the gun of litigation.

ML is as guilty as CTS for the shortcomings and they should've been standing shoulder to shoulder instead of publicly shaming them in 2020. That poisoned the well
 
voilan said:
  • Commits that ECT will open "flawlessly" (EDIT: journalist asked whether Verster would stake his reputation upon it, Verster responds affirmatively)
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If TTC is doing several months of full-service equivalent testing prior to a public opening then this is probably true. TTC projects might be late but day 1 service on TTC RT projects is usually pretty close to what is anticipated.

If TTC standard QA processes are prevented then my faith in that statement approaches zero.
 
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chrisw said:
I wonder if he'll be able to commit to a date for the November update.
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Will he still be working there in November ...

It's puzzling how a few weeks ago, they thought they'd be able to announce a date now, but now they aren't even sure they'll be able to announce a date in 2 months!

It's going backwards.
 
Admiral Beez said:
I think 2025 is likely. A year from now is essentially June 2024. That‘s not long enough for things to work their way through the courts. So, add another six to seven months and then we‘re into Jan-Feb 2025. But you don’t want to launch a new system in the snow…. so that’s April-May 2025.
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I stick to my prediction above. Full system opening in April-May 2025.
 
I would be curious as to how many of the deficiencies were identified at some point in the past, and what efforts were made between then and now to obtain agreement that they require correction, and how that discussion went.
Some things only emerge when the product is commissioned - but things like water intrusion must have been known pretty much since the outset (heck, UT’era were commenting on them when the first construction phase images were released!)
One wonders is Metrolinx’ “call the lawyera at the first sign of trouble” stance has backfired.
Fleet availability issues are pretty hard to understand when the MF is stuffed with vehicles. Of course, if the signalling has bugs, the fleet is stuck at base - maybe that’s the lack of availability.

- Paul
 
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