smallspy
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Nothing so exciting, it seems.
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cplchanb
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Just got off of the dvp to eglinton....contractors were there and a lane was blocked off for them to park their cars...but guess what they were doing for work... sitting and chatting by the grass at 10am in their freakn lawn chairs!!!! Seriously WTF are we paying for.... if you want proof that this project has been mismanaged by all parties this is it...
edit: i get it if theres unforeseen delays but the fact they had LAWNCHAIRS in hand proves that they had planned for this....
edit: i get it if theres unforeseen delays but the fact they had LAWNCHAIRS in hand proves that they had planned for this....
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cplchanb
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"The government expects 19 train trips to be added specifically to the Stouffville line connecting Toronto to Markham once two-way, all-day service is offered. The province anticipates this will happen by 2031"Nothing so exciting, it seems.
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WTF.... EIGHT YEARS to improve service.... ILL BE OLD THEN!! what a shamefully low bar to set......
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cplchanb
Senior Member
i and the rest of Toronto honestly could care less about what "challenges aka grudges" remain. All everyone wants is a firm opening date.
Railrunner
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8 years is a really long time for transit unless you're talking about HS2 in the UK. Either 2031 or 2032 for increased service"The government expects 19 train trips to be added specifically to the Stouffville line connecting Toronto to Markham once two-way, all-day service is offered. The province anticipates this will happen by 2031"
WTF.... EIGHT YEARS to improve service.... ILL BE OLD THEN!! what a shamefully low bar to set......
.chrisw
Active Member
8 years is a really long time for transit unless you're talking about HS2 in the UK. Either 2031 or 2032 for increased service
Well, Go Expansion is quite the big project. Not an expert so maybe they could do it in a faster time.
260 km of electrified rail. And electrification is quite the game changer, trains will be able to accelerate and decelerate much faster. Higher top speeds. Tripling of weekly trains.
reinventingthewheel
Active Member
I tend to agree, I think Metrolinx has there work appropriately prioritized for GO expansion. There just isn’t enough demand to progress the Stouffville line at a rate higher than others. Hard for me to empathize as a former Lakeshore West rider, but I get the frustration. Maybe it’s best to blame our labour shortage.
I know it’s been a slow news day (week/month/year?) for the crosstown but I think any further comments should probably be filtered out towards the GO Service thread.
Amare
Senior Member
Ok i take it back, the Crosstown will probably open after both Finch West AND Hurontario at this point.
This project is an absolute clown show.
cplchanb
Senior Member
its a tremendous shame... the above grade section can be made ready to open in short order but is being held back to prop up verster's ego and agenda.
as soon as they discovered the underpinning problems they shouldve immediately shifted to a phased opening.
Amare
Senior Member
^They cant open it up under a phased opening if there are issues throughout the line, especially since the MSF is located in the west end. There's no way you can reliably take vehicles into/out of service while having to complete work on various parts of the line.
T3G
Senior Member
Leaving aside the ridiculousness of opening a major trunk line as a truncated shuttle in the wastes of Scarberia for a moment, how do you propose that the rolling stock for the line, housed on the western end of the line, gets to the terminal in Scarborough? What if there's construction work along the line that would cut off the storage facility from the east end?
A phased opening sounds like a great idea, until you stop and think about it for at least 1.5 seconds.
A phased opening sounds like a great idea, until you stop and think about it for at least 1.5 seconds.
cplchanb
Senior Member
At the previously planned opening they were well past the tunnel issues and were working on the concourse levels. Trains could easily pass through if they need to be shuttled. No to mention there are turnbacks further east to accommodate and they could used the Easter underground stations to park some trains overnight temporarily. Besides, it's not like they need to access the msf every minute of the day. I'm sure they could've found a way around it had they tried
eglinton1661
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New Eglinton CLC presentation just published on the website. Compared to previous presentations the estimated dates and durations are unusually specific. This is hopeful news:
T3G
Senior Member
Seriously? In a project so fraught with delays as this one, you are prepared to accept that the tunnels are 100% good to go and that there's no possibility whatsoever of further work being required?
How temporary is temporary? We've known about the underpinning issues for a hot minute now. What is your proposal? That the trains not get maintained during this several year time period? That they pass through a construction zone to receive maintenance? That they truck them at great expense to the yard every time they need work?