Mississauga Hurontario-Main Line 10 LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx

There is a video for this mess and has yet to be approved by MTO for release and will post it once release

No Hurontario Access to the QEW at all. Same for the QEW from what I see

The south Service Road is going to be a mess

Any pedestrian wanting to get cross the QEW at Hurontario is in for one hell of a walk by the way of Cawthra to get around the closure

Significant Restrictions at QEW Closure of Hurontario Street at QEW
Beginning Friday, October 28, 2022, at 10PM to Monday October 31, 2022, at 5AM
What work is taking place? Starting October 28, 2022, at 10PM, crews will work around the clock for 55 hours to install a large structure, also known as the Push Box, that will form a new and additional underpass at the QEW highway along Hurontario Street to support the future LRT. This work will be continuous and is scheduled to be completed at 5AM on October 31, 2022, at which point the QEW, and Hurontario Street will be reopened for normal operations. If roadways are delayed in opening, updates will be provided by signage in the area, through the media and through social media.

What is closed? What is the detour?
There will be significant restrictions east and westbound on the QEW. Traffic will be reduced to two lanes in each direction and diverted off the highway to the Hurontario Street off and on ramps before returning to the QEW. There is also coordination with other MTO works at the QEW/Credit River Bridge to ensure traffic flows before and after the QEW/Hurontario Street closure. North and southbound Hurontario Street under the QEW will also be closed between North Service Road and South Service Road. There will be no access to the QEW on ramps from Hurontario Street and access to the QEW will be detoured as per the map above to Cawthra Road. Detours routes and signage will be set in place and signal timings will be adjusted to ensure traffic continues to move during this weekend.

Transit service will be detoured, resulting in no MiWay service between South Service Road and Mineola Road during this weekend. Please check www.MiWay.ca/updates.

There will be no pedestrian or cycling access at the tunnel east of Hurontario Street and under the QEW on Hurontario Street during this closure.

This is necessary to complete the work safely and in the least amount of time. Access for emergency vehicles will always be permitted through a coordinated effort with Paid Duty Officers (PDOs) and traffic crews on scene.

What to expect after the closure (Monday October 31, 2022)
• Traffic control devices and signage will be removed or modified
• Peel Police, OPP and traffic crews will assist in restoring traffic
• There will be minimal site restoration required along Hurontario and additional site restoration on the QEW and its ramps will be performed through work windows outside of the 55-hour closure
• Monitoring will continue consistently throughout the weekend Please note, work may be rescheduled due to weather or unforeseen circumstances. If you require the most up-to-date information, please reach out to peel@metrolinx.com

TIMING
• The QEW highway, in both directions, will be reduced to two lanes and traffic will be diverted to the Hurontario Street off and on ramps between 10PM Friday, October 28 until approximately 5AM Monday, October 31, 2022.
• Hurontario Street under the QEW will be closed between North Service Road and South Service from 10PM Friday October 28 until approximately 5AM Monday, October 31, 2022. There will be no access to the QEW on ramps from Hurontario Street during this time and traffic will be detoured.
• Closures and detours will be in place throughout the entire duration of the work.

TRAFFIC DETAILS
• Significant traffic delays are expected – consider alternate routes, transit or changing your plans.
• Access to southbound Hurontario Street will be maintained through a detour route from The Queensway, Cawthra Road, and Lakeshore Road.
• Access to northbound Hurontario Street will be maintained through a detour route from the South Service Road, Cawthra Road, and The Queensway.
• Watch for slow moving vehicles entering and exiting work areas. • Remember to reduce your speed when approaching lane reductions and road closures.

• Residents and businesses near the work site can expect increased traffic on local streets and to hear noise and vibration caused by trucks, excavators, backhoes, and other construction equipment related to this work.

TRANSIT IMPACTS
• MiWay’s Route 2 – Hurontario will be on detour during this closure. Route 2 will not service Hurontario Street between South Service Road and Mineola Road. Visit www.miway.ca/updates for information on your bus route and schedule.
• Visit www.gotransit.com for information on GO Bus detours.
• Watch for additional signs directing passengers at bus stops as boarding areas may be relocated.

PEDESTRIAN DETAILS
• Access under the QEW on Hurontario Street and the pedestrian tunnel will be closed.
• Please obey all construction signs as pedestrian access under the QEW will be closed.
• Please take care when travelling near construction areas. CONTACT US
• Metrolinx has a dedicated community relations team in place to work with residents in Peel region through the construction and operation of this project.
• 24-hour line 416-202-7500
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Population growth coming from North of Mississauga including Brampton, Georgetown, and Milton Hurontario will become a parking Lot. They assume that LRT will compensate for this. It's so sad because the room is there!

I live on the ninth line north of Eglinton, It's 2022 and this road is still a 2 lane Congo line. Who on earth is making these decisions!? If they can't fix this road how could they fix HWY 10!!??

Sorry for the rant.
 
Ravager said:
Population growth coming from North of Mississauga including Brampton, Georgetown, and Milton Hurontario will become a parking Lot. They assume that LRT will compensate for this. It's so sad because the room is there!

I live on the ninth line north of Eglinton, It's 2022 and this road is still a 2 lane Congo line. Who on earth is making these decisions!? If they can't fix this road how could they fix HWY 10!!??

Sorry for the rant.
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I don't think the intent is for Ninth Line to be a major arterial. However, are some of the land is being developed between it and the 407, I think Ninth Line is being upgraded.

Shaping Ninth Line

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Ravager said:
Population growth coming from North of Mississauga including Brampton, Georgetown, and Milton Hurontario will become a parking Lot. They assume that LRT will compensate for this. It's so sad because the room is there!

I live on the ninth line north of Eglinton, It's 2022 and this road is still a 2 lane Congo line. Who on earth is making these decisions!? If they can't fix this road how could they fix HWY 10!!??

Sorry for the rant.
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Sorry for your lack of road space, but the days of wide 3 lanes roads are coming to an end and have no issues with it.

Hurontario was to be a nine (9) lane road north of the CP tracks to Brampton and the land was put aside after an 1980 report call for it. As a pedestrian who currently cross 7 lanes, it bitch to do so as well the N-S traffic light can be up to 3 minutes long, regardless there is very little traffic on it. The speed has been reduced 10k in the past 5 year, yet you see highway speed on it from to to bottom.

Mississauga has no plan to widen roads over 4 lanes and it goes back to the day when Burnhamthrope was to be 7 lanes east of Hurontario after its EA was approved and was kill. Burnhamthrope west was to be reduced to 5 lanes, but it gone off the rail.

The city has under estimate what the LRT will do with the plan to loop the core as well going the the bus terminal now. There is currently 15-20 minute waste of riders time on a good day using the old 19 and the 2/17 is about the same today. You will save 5 minutes using the LRT each way and will increase to 20 minutes if the loop is built. You can add more time if the line gets split like the 2/17 to the point, that the folks who have access to a car will stay in the car, especially for the Eglinton area.

As for 9th line, it will be upgrade to 5 lanes down the road.

The city hasn't increased the model split since 2000 when I first start doing numbers for the system. The city is great doing the transit talk, but poor backing up the talk and it starts with density city wide. With you don't have density to support a route, petter hard to put quality service on it to get folks out of their car.

As Hazel used to say at council, time to built a wall around the city to stop people passing through her city and causing traffic mess within it.
 
drum118 said:
As Hazel used to say at council, time to built a wall around the city to stop people passing through her city and causing traffic mess within it.
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The Mississaugans that work in Toronto might have something to say about such a wall.

I don't think the parochial approach is the correct one. We're a region, and we're stronger when we act that way. I think we made big land use planning and transportation infrastructure mistakes by thinking of each municipality as its own little fiefdom.
 
afransen said:
The Mississaugans that work in Toronto might have something to say about such a wall.

I don't think the parochial approach is the correct one. We're a region, and we're stronger when we act that way. I think we made big land use planning and transportation infrastructure mistakes by thinking of each municipality as its own little fiefdom.
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When she was mayor, her comments were to areas west of Mississauga and the north related to traffic issues which was a joke.

Only have to look at the lakeshore to see how much traffic is non Mississauga on it.

In fact, when we did the EA study for the Queens Way W rebuilt, we found 70% of drivers on it were non residents for the area as well Toronto.

Every place has non residents passing through it on non highways roads when traffic becomes an issue on the highway.
 
drum118 said:
When she was mayor, her comments were to areas west of Mississauga and the north related to traffic issues which was a joke.

Only have to look at the lakeshore to see how much traffic is non Mississauga on it.

In fact, when we did the EA study for the Queens Way W rebuilt, we found 70% of drivers on it were non residents for the area as well Toronto.

Every place has non residents passing through it on non highways roads when traffic becomes an issue on the highway.
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Want to discourage through traffic? Make it 30 kph and add lots of traffic calming.
 
afransen said:
Want to discourage through traffic? Make it 30 kph and add lots of traffic calming.
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The day of 30k is around the corner now with 40 becoming the norm
 
drum118 said:
Sorry for your lack of road space, but the days of wide 3 lanes roads are coming to an end and have no issues with it.

Hurontario was to be a nine (9) lane road north of the CP tracks to Brampton and the land was put aside after an 1980 report call for it. As a pedestrian who currently cross 7 lanes, it bitch to do so as well the N-S traffic light can be up to 3 minutes long, regardless there is very little traffic on it. The speed has been reduced 10k in the past 5 year, yet you see highway speed on it from to to bottom.

Mississauga has no plan to widen roads over 4 lanes and it goes back to the day when Burnhamthrope was to be 7 lanes east of Hurontario after its EA was approved and was kill. Burnhamthrope west was to be reduced to 5 lanes, but it gone off the rail.

The city has under estimate what the LRT will do with the plan to loop the core as well going the the bus terminal now. There is currently 15-20 minute waste of riders time on a good day using the old 19 and the 2/17 is about the same today. You will save 5 minutes using the LRT each way and will increase to 20 minutes if the loop is built. You can add more time if the line gets split like the 2/17 to the point, that the folks who have access to a car will stay in the car, especially for the Eglinton area.

As for 9th line, it will be upgrade to 5 lanes down the road.

The city hasn't increased the model split since 2000 when I first start doing numbers for the system. The city is great doing the transit talk, but poor backing up the talk and it starts with density city wide. With you don't have density to support a route, petter hard to put quality service on it to get folks out of their car.

As Hazel used to say at council, time to built a wall around the city to stop people passing through her city and causing traffic mess within it.
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BUILD THAT WALL
 
6 lane roads are very much not dead and are continuing to get built all across the 905. York and Halton Regions have large plans to upgrade huge amounts of their arterials to 6 lanes.

Much of Peel already has large sections of 6 lane arterials, So it's easier for Mississauga to say "no more 6 lane arterials" since most of theirs are already at that. Plus Mississauga just completed widening Mavis in what, 2019? And still plans to widen it over the 407?

That said, yes, dropping Hurontario to 4 lanes is generally fine, I think, as long as Mississauga ensures the adjacent road network can handle the overflow. Roads like Maritz Drive, Confederation Parkway, and Whittle Road will take some traffic displacement from Hurontario.
 
innsertnamehere said:
6 lane roads are very much not dead and are continuing to get built all across the 905. York and Halton Regions have large plans to upgrade huge amounts of their arterials to 6 lanes.

Much of Peel already has large sections of 6 lane arterials, So it's easier for Mississauga to say "no more 6 lane arterials" since most of theirs are already at that. Plus Mississauga just completed widening Mavis in what, 2019? And still plans to widen it over the 407?

That said, yes, dropping Hurontario to 4 lanes is generally fine, I think, as long as Mississauga ensures the adjacent road network can handle the overflow. Roads like Maritz Drive, Confederation Parkway, and Whittle Road will take some traffic displacement from Hurontario.
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Queen, Steeles, and Bovaird in Brampton are each in the future going to get BRTs on them using lane conversion. This is an effective way to launder roads development charges for transit.
 
grammin said:
Hi Guys,

Had a look this week at Port Credit on the Hurontario LRT. Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy the video.:)

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So the pedestrian tunnel seen in the video at 8:25 is not going to be accessible during the pushbox push next weekend?
 
Mercury said:
So the pedestrian tunnel seen in the video at 8:25 is not going to be accessible during the pushbox push next weekend?
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Long walking as well cycling to/from Cawthra due to safety issues. Since the QEW will be free flowing using the ramps, hard to have pedestrians/cycles crossing those lanes as well stopping the traffic.

The idea of a shuttle bus was kill due to safety issues as well.

Route 2 will see beef up service using the same headway due to longer trave time as well traffic backup. Surprise the 2 is using Mineola in place of Lakeshore, then Lakeshore will be jamb up like most QEW mess.
 
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