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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

^ Certainly a concern, but will it not be fairly easy to adjust the signal infrastructure a few months after it opens if they are having on-time performance issues?
 
^ Certainly a concern, but will it not be fairly easy to adjust the signal infrastructure a few months after it opens if they are having on-time performance issues?
the biggest difficulty lies in determining who 'they' are, and if the 'they' who are willing to pay for signal upgrades is the same 'they' who is contractually on the hook for underperformance (...who is the same 'they' who has authority to allow new/innovative signalization strategies).

point being, even if CTSM wants to upgrade, you need to get TTC, Mx and the city to agree AND figure out who's gonna pay. I don't see this happening!
 
Isn't this the city's fault for no signal priority?
Toronto's Transportation (Roads) Department is the major cause of the public transit roadblocks for improvements. Must not anger their automobile gods.

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From link.
 
the biggest difficulty lies in determining who 'they' are, and if the 'they' who are willing to pay for signal upgrades is the same 'they' who is contractually on the hook for underperformance (...who is the same 'they' who has authority to allow new/innovative signalization strategies).

point being, even if CTSM wants to upgrade, you need to get TTC, Mx and the city to agree AND figure out who's gonna pay. I don't see this happening!
This isn't a monumental task. The TTC/City have employed transit priority at various locations elsewhere on the transit network.

This could be bureaucratic squabbling. Or perhaps they couldn't figure out how to effectively implement signal priority? We really need more answers, this is unacceptable.
 

Please someone tell me that Ben Spurr has made a mistake here.

Even by Toronto's standards, this is utterly bizarre.
Okay, so it turns out that saying the line "won't operate with transit priority" might be a bit misleading. See this thread by transit planner @larrylarry on Twitter.

I hope he's right on this.





https://twitter.com/larrylarry/status/1448004603639894019?s=20
 
Please someone tell me that Ben Spurr has made a mistake here.

Even by Toronto's standards, this is utterly bizarre.
Yes he has, as its longer than 50 Seconds. If you add the extra 10 seconds that I have seen for the LRV's that have to stop sooner than traffic, it will be even longer than what the car gods are telling him how long it will be between light changes.

If he is going by what the car gods are say and doesn't know about the extra 10 seconds, he maybe right. I have never time that it takes between light changes.
 
Please someone tell me that Ben Spurr has made a mistake here.

Even by Toronto's standards, this is utterly bizarre.
This is news to you? We've been talking about this for years now...

While the engineer that responded to him says there will be soft TSP, Metrolinx hasn't reaffirmed what he has said and all signs point to there no TSP at all.
 
So there really is less priority than streetcars and buses have on the TTC network today? Somehow I doubt that. It will likely be similar/better.
 

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