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Absolutely different services would ideally be more important but they need to know the operator so they know whether their transfer or day pass is valid, or if they'll have to pay again. The operators will have to be listed until the fares are completely integrated so people know what they'll be paying and if they've already paid for it.
There are only a few agencies that use T as an agency logo and put it on all modes of transit. The only ones I can think of are Boston and Minneapolis. Translink puts T everywhere but does not use T as its logo. (Also, Scandinavia doesn't count, because there, T just stands for T-banen/T-bane, just like german U for U-bahn.)
It really seems like Metrolinx trying to bring about some sort of unity where none exists. Like you said either the logo is specific to a service or all services are operated by the same agency. In our case we have multiple agencies and multiple services offered so this half-assed attempt at unified way-finding means nothing as you said. We can look at Tokyo and New York as opposite ends of the spectrum. In the case of Tokyo there are multiple agencies operating transit and so there is not single unified logo since that won't work due to each service being independent from the next. On the opposite hand you have New York City where all service fall under the operation of the MTA and thus all use the MTA logo. Metrolinx is in essence trying to apply a New York solution to a Tokyo problem if you catch my drift.
And therin lies the problem. Its not replacing the TTC logo or any other agency logo, so what is its purpose? It's not a notification that there is transit nearby because the TTC logo already does that and will have been doing that for 100 years come September 1st.
Good luck finding a TTC logo in Durham Region or vice versa. That's the idea - that the T is a unifying thing, wherever you are in the GTHA, and whatever mode/agency you're looking for.
If they wanted unification, they'd use an orange line 5 logo. The T is just confusing, as elsewhere GO is using it for bus stops. If you start sticking it on the doors of a subway station, then people will start wandering inside looking for bus platforms. Elsewhere, I've seen GO using it on maintenance facilities, that have no transit stop!
I am almost certain Metrolinx's incompetence here is going to lead to people questioning if Line 5 is part of the TTC network since unless I am missing something there appears to be no TTC signage. So by the looks of it we have a line that is fully part of the TTC network with TTC fares but has no signage indicating such and infact has a completely different logo from what may appear as a completely no existent agency. Looking at the picture you gotta ask "Who owns/operates the line? I thought it was the TTC". Well it is but Metrolinx's ineptitude knows no bounds.
I get what they're trying to do. Like when you see a lowercase i in a circle you'd probably think it's an information sign, they're doing the same but with transit. I don't understand though why they didn't follow their own guidelines and but the operator underneath like that^. No one would be complaining if the ttc logo was under the T. Let's hope it's a sticker they put on later.
Well Metrolinx not following there own guidelines is nothing new, need I remind you about their "Crosstown Naming guidelines" which they for some reason needed. Sure anybody could have just opened Google Maps to pick out station names, but why do that when we can piss away tens of thousands of dollars on know-nothing consultants who are just gonna tell us what we already knew! Hows about such wonderful names like "Aga Kahn Park and Museum"? Short and to the point right!!!! Can I interest you in some "Cedarvale (formerally known as Eglinton West)? Our guidelines said we won't rename existsing stations but by-god we did it anyway
)))))!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or what about Sloane? everyone said it should be named Bermondsey but that sounded to "corporate". What does that mean? Hell we don't even know ourselves. METROLINX!! We make you loose faith in the idea of a unified Transit network in the GTA!How the hell is a random person supposed to distinguish a GO bus stop from a TTC bus stop, if all they’re putting is this useless generic “T” on the stop signage. The obvious solution is to put the agency name, but judging from these images, it appears that they’ve opted not to do this??
They're going to have the agency name as the first thing visible under the T, like so.
