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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

turini2 said:
That's the idea - that the T is a unifying thing, wherever you are in the GTHA, and whatever mode/agency you're looking for.
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If they wanted unification, they'd use an orange line 5 logo. The T is just confusing, as elsewhere GO is using it for bus stops. If you start sticking it on the doors of a subway station, then people will start wandering inside looking for bus platforms. Elsewhere, I've seen GO using it on maintenance facilities, that have no transit stop!
 
Something like this should've been implemented at the very least.

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nfitz said:
If they wanted unification, they'd use an orange line 5 logo. The T is just confusing, as elsewhere GO is using it for bus stops. If you start sticking it on the doors of a subway station, then people will start wandering inside looking for bus platforms. Elsewhere, I've seen GO using it on maintenance facilities, that have no transit stop!
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I am almost certain Metrolinx's incompetence here is going to lead to people questioning if Line 5 is part of the TTC network since unless I am missing something there appears to be no TTC signage. So by the looks of it we have a line that is fully part of the TTC network with TTC fares but has no signage indicating such and infact has a completely different logo from what may appear as a completely no existent agency. Looking at the picture you gotta ask "Who owns/operates the line? I thought it was the TTC". Well it is but Metrolinx's ineptitude knows no bounds.
 
Coolstar said:
Something like this should've been implemented at the very least.

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I get what they're trying to do. Like when you see a lowercase i in a circle you'd probably think it's an information sign, they're doing the same but with transit. I don't understand though why they didn't follow their own guidelines and but the operator underneath like that^. No one would be complaining if the ttc logo was under the T. Let's hope it's a sticker they put on later.
 
KhalilHeron said:
I get what they're trying to do. Like when you see a lowercase i in a circle you'd probably think it's an information sign, they're doing the same but with transit. I don't understand though why they didn't follow their own guidelines and but the operator underneath like that^. No one would be complaining if the ttc logo was under the T. Let's hope it's a sticker they put on later.
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Well Metrolinx not following there own guidelines is nothing new, need I remind you about their "Crosstown Naming guidelines" which they for some reason needed. Sure anybody could have just opened Google Maps to pick out station names, but why do that when we can piss away tens of thousands of dollars on know-nothing consultants who are just gonna tell us what we already knew! Hows about such wonderful names like "Aga Kahn Park and Museum"? Short and to the point right!!!! Can I interest you in some "Cedarvale (formerally known as Eglinton West)? Our guidelines said we won't rename existsing stations but by-god we did it anyway :))))))!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or what about Sloane? everyone said it should be named Bermondsey but that sounded to "corporate". What does that mean? Hell we don't even know ourselves. METROLINX!! We make you loose faith in the idea of a unified Transit network in the GTA!
 
JSF-1 said:
I am almost certain Metrolinx's incompetence here is going to lead to people questioning if Line 5 is part of the TTC network since unless I am missing something there appears to be no TTC signage. So by the looks of it we have a line that is fully part of the TTC network with TTC fares but has no signage indicating such and infact has a completely different logo from what may appear as a completely no existent agency. Looking at the picture you gotta ask "Who owns/operates the line? I thought it was the TTC". Well it is but Metrolinx's ineptitude knows no bounds.
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How the hell is a random person supposed to distinguish a GO bus stop from a TTC bus stop, if all they’re putting is this useless generic “T” on the stop signage. The obvious solution is to put the agency name, but judging from these images, it appears that they’ve opted not to do this??

Pretty sure the lack of the TTC logo here has nothing to do with improving way finding, and everything to do with convincing the public that Metrolinx can be a real transit operator, in case a future government ever wants to revive the subway upload proposal.
 
TheTigerMaster said:
How the hell is a random person supposed to distinguish a GO bus stop from a TTC bus stop, if all they’re putting is this useless generic “T” on the stop signage. The obvious solution is to put the agency name, but judging from these images, it appears that they’ve opted not to do this??

Pretty sure the lack of the TTC logo here has nothing to do with improving way finding, and everything to do with convincing the public that Metrolinx can be a real transit operator, in case a future government ever wants to revive the subway upload proposal.
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They're going to have the agency name as the first thing visible under the T, like so.
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superelevation said:
Sheppard is fairly successful given the corridor, I think a lot of people would be surprised how busy trains are even off peak. With all the new development finally filling in around Bessarion even that station will likely be doing better. All this in mind the "TOD" is pretty terrible, its not really oriented towards the stations besides at Don Mills, at Leslie, Bessarion, and Bayview the density is actually set back from the stations making for especially inconvenient walking connections especially at Leslie. Literally the reverse of what Vancouver would do.
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I don't think they would.

Sheppard has already been operational for nearly 20 years and it's still woefully underused. The three non-terminus stations on the line are among the Top 10 least used stations in the entire system.

The new development around Bessarion won't really scratch the surface.

Again, as far as the economics of transit are concerned, building expensive infrastructure doesn't make any sense if the ridership doesn't justify it. This has already been demonstrated.
 
W. K. Lis said:
Subway AND light rail lines are to use the same image icon.

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So a rapid bus gets its own logo but the subway does not? For christ sake...

Also, they should use the TTC font. It's distinctly Toronto and would make these roundals stand out more.
 
Streety McCarface said:
So a rapid bus gets its own logo but the subway does not? For christ sake...

Also, they should use the TTC font. It's distinctly Toronto and would make these roundals stand out more.
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They should hire London consultants to tell them what fonts to use. Maybe they can use London Underground roundrels or something 🤣
 
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