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Road Safety & Vision Zero Plan

Is it just me, but do the overhead lighting at road intersections and crossings provide poor or little lighting? Can't see pedestrians, especially if they are wearing dark clothing. Seem to be relying on the headlights of vehicles.

Reducing Late-Night/Early Morning Intersection Crashes By Providing Lighting

From link.

Also from this link.

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Appropriate quality and placement of lighting can enhance an environment as well as increase comfort and safety.
Source: Living Streets Page 7-18


This is long overdue. Every time I drive at night, I feel unsafe as a driver at the terribly dark pedestrian crossings. And most people seem to wear dark clothing, compounding the problem, as you mentioned.
 
There is no excuse that they have to wire the lights needed for pedestrian safety. We can use solar lights to provide the needed extra lighting. More lighting for pedestrians needed at traffic light intersections.

See link.

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Note that mention is made of motion sensors, which Toronto will not use yet, because pedestrians are low on the priority list.
 
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Danforth Avenue Complete Street and Planning Study

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Some background info:
The Complete Street Study will be undertaken within the entire study area from the Don Valley to Victoria Park Avenue. It will involve a detailed examination of the right-of-way and a feasibility design study to review traffic, parking, and other impacts specific to determining a complete streets design, including the potential for on-street cycling facilities along Danforth Avenue.

An economic analysis study will be undertaken to provide an understanding of the economic environment and issues faced by retailers along the Danforth, along with an origin and destination survey.

The second segment of the Planning Study will be undertaken within the area between the Don Valley and Coxwell Avenue in order to conduct a planning review and analysis to inform the development of the planning framework that identifies future city-building opportunities, guides new development, and enhances the public realm and quality of place.

Study Purpose
The Danforth Study will bring together the following elements through a comprehensive and coordinated process.
  • A complete street study, the examination of the roadway width and curbside uses (i.e. parking and loading/unloading) and review options for a complete street design and the potential for on-street protected bike lanes.
  • An economic analysis to provide an understanding of the economic environment and issues faced by retailers along the Danforth.
  • A planning study to identify future city-building opportunities, guide new development, and enhance the public realm and quality of place.

 
I work near Simcoe and Wellington. It's a crazy intersection and lately a cop is there most evenings directing traffic to make things safer. The cop will often "overrule" what the traffic signals show. For example, he waves cars through even if the light is red. Pedestrians can then easily walk into the flow of traffic cause they see a "walk" symbol. What's the rule when a cop is directing traffic? He's often off to the sides and you can easily miss he's not there if you're just looking at the traffic lights.
 
Danforth Avenue Complete Street and Planning Study

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I don't know if anyone else went to this meeting last night..........

It wasn't terrible but it was problematic.

They seriously underestimated attendance. It was held in the cafeteria of the High School; they filled every seat and had no fewer than 150 people standing; and I expect quite a few left for lack of seats or inability to see the screens.

The proposal at this stage is incredibly non-specific, essentially asking for help forming the terms of reference, and envisioning not getting to a recommended solution til late 2021 or thereabouts.

A few people were plaintive about the fact there was nothing specific in the documents/presentation about bike lanes; some were clearly in favour, others vehemently opposed, but both were unhappy at the City seeming to take a non-position.

That was honestly bad, as the City really does have a position (pro bike lane) and a mandate to improve safety for all road users.

Of course, strong enough opposition could derail that; but that is what they want to head towards.

I really feel like you can diffuse more opposition by being honest, in a moderate way; rather than seeming evasive which draws antagonism from all sides.

Hopefully this goes forward in a productive way and we ultimately get bike lanes, I'm also hoping to see bike lanes on a pilot basis rather sooner than this process envisions.

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For my part, I focused putting a few sticky notes on their map which would allow vehicle traffic to move more easily without impeding cyclists/pedestrians/transit; and which would in turn reduce opposition to bike lanes by reducing their net impact.
 
Fairly simple, the cop is the only signal that matters.

This is one of those infrequent quirks that makes safe automated driving a very hard problem.
This really sucks, since it's clear our police have zero interest in prioritising pedestrians at all. We're just an inconvenience to cars in their eyes.
 
They seriously underestimated attendance. It was held in the cafeteria of the High School; they filled every seat and had no fewer than 150 people standing; and I expect quite a few left for lack of seats or inability to see the screens.
I was told that this was the largest space they could get within the Danforth study area.


Hopefully this goes forward in a productive way and we ultimately get bike lanes, I'm also hoping to see bike lanes on a pilot basis rather sooner than this process envisions.

I am hoping for that too, and it's something that myself and a few other people brought up. But because of their "we don't know yet if bike lanes will be recommended" neutrality bias, staff don't feel the time is right to talk about a pilot until they get around to completing that part of the study (which is quite a while from now).

But on the bright side, next year we are getting a huge west extension of the Bloor St bike lanes to High Park. :)
 
Fairly simple, the cop is the only signal that matters.

This is one of those infrequent quirks that makes safe automated driving a very hard problem.

Back in simpler times, many cops had a key to open a panel in the signal control box and either manually advance them or turn them off completely. Alas, too many cops and more complicated controllers have largely put an end to that being practical. Directing traffic is as much performance art as it is a skill and if they are not visible to everyone they are positioned improperly, but an intersection has become a very dangerous place to stand in the middle of. It might be better to turn the signals off if they still could, but too many drivers and pedestrians would simply treat the intersection as a free-for-all.
 
I was told that this was the largest space they could get within the Danforth study area

I rather doubt this. (not you, them)

Certainly if you don't worry about putting tables out, the auditorium at nearby Danforth Tech is not small, it would hold at least several hundred.

From Karim Hachlaf's Twitter:

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There's also Danforth Music Hall, albeit at the western extreme of the study area.

If you wanted tables out, several area High Schools have double-gyms.............

I am hoping for that too, and it's something that myself and a few other people brought up. But because of their "we don't know yet if bike lanes will be recommended" neutrality bias, staff don't feel the time is right to talk about a pilot until they get around to completing that part of the study (which is quite a while from now).

I get the nominal neutrality bias, as a theory.

In reality; if you were there, you heard angry cyclists asking when things will happen; and angry opponents thinking the fix was in for bike lanes.

Not giving straight answers about mandate and preferences leads to a negative impression from everyone.

I'm a policy wonk and can and do read 100-page plus policy thesis on a regular basis.

Even I found the presentation tedious; and moreso for those standing and crowded in, I'm sure.

But it was too jargon-filled for the average member of the public who would like you to cut the chase and say this is what we're thinking; its not final, details matter, we're listening; but we do hope to do something sorta like this.

That gives proponents and opponents and honest sense of the lay of the land.

When bureaucrats speak bureaucrastese in a public meeting, at length, it rarely goes over well.
 
Back in simpler times, many cops had a key to open a panel in the signal control box and either manually advance them or turn them off completely. Alas, too many cops and more complicated controllers have largely put an end to that being practical. Directing traffic is as much performance art as it is a skill and if they are not visible to everyone they are positioned improperly, but an intersection has become a very dangerous place to stand in the middle of. It might be better to turn the signals off if they still could, but too many drivers and pedestrians would simply treat the intersection as a free-for-all.

That’s what I’ve seen in other cities, the lights are shut off or put to flashing reds. In the absence of being able to do that, I would expect that the cop would just ensure that drivers are obeying the lights and not blocking the intersection. Otherwise it’s just seems too dangerous to have the signals say one thing and the cop saying another.
 
That’s what I’ve seen in other cities, the lights are shut off or put to flashing reds. In the absence of being able to do that, I would expect that the cop would just ensure that drivers are obeying the lights and not blocking the intersection. Otherwise it’s just seems too dangerous to have the signals say one thing and the cop saying another.

A laudable, but apparently unrealistic, goal on any given day!

I've actually seen pedestrians arguing with coppers when the intersection is temporarily held for a security escort or something (not long enough to shut down the lights) and they can't cross when the signal says they can.
 
This is so true. From the Beaverton:


Once again millions of Canadians literally forget how to drive after first snowfall

OTTAWA – Ministry of Transportation offices across Canada are once again finding themselves overrun with what has become a familiar sight each winter, as hundreds of thousands of Canadians must restart their licensing processes from the very beginning after the mere sight of snow has caused them to completely forget how to drive a car.

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2016/12/millions-canadians-literally-forget-drive-first-snowfall/
 

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