Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[Monarch Butterfly]

I'm concerned about how much protection the shelter/stop platforms give to passengers waiting for the next light rail train. Would there be some barrier or bollards that would stop or at least slow down an out-of-control vehicle? Or are will they be some flimsy separation so as to not cause injury to the out-of-control vehicle occupants, and ignore the passengers at the stops?

 

[Leo_Chan]

I'm concerned about how much protection the shelter/stop platforms give to passengers waiting for the next light rail train. Would there be some barrier or bollards that would stop or at least slow down an out-of-control vehicle? Or are will they be some flimsy separation so as to not cause injury to the out-of-control vehicle occupants, and ignore the passengers at the stops?

I'd say both concrete things at the red and blue circles should exists on the Crosstown stops

Also, WTF is that wasted space on the right side of the platform? Can they not move the tracks right a bit and have wider platforms? Platforms don't have to be symmetrical along the whole stop...

 

[sixrings]

I prefer to hope that these LRTs will come soon enough that enclosed stations arent necessary.... In calgary waiting 15 mins in minus 30 was nuts but one learned to know a schedule way before gps apps were available

 

[Avenue]

I prefer to hope that these LRTs will come soon enough that enclosed stations arent necessary

I think that'll be highly dependent on what sort of transit priority at intersections will be in place. I definitely believe the on grade part of this line will be an item of contention once operational.

 

[hw621]

i just like seeing something finally get built
keep upping the costs and your new premier might be cancelling everything.... on the other hand he probably will no matter what

Speaking of which, it may not be possible for DoFo to cancel the whole project, but can he just cancel the above ground portion, since it fits "the damned streetcars" definition?

 

[sixrings]

Speaking of which, it may not be possible for DoFo to cancel the whole project, but can he just cancel the above ground portion, since it fits "the damned streetcars" definition?

As someone who lives on Eglinton I take that "damned streetcar" above ground portion over nothing any day of the week.

 

[hw621]

As someone who lives on Eglinton I take that "damned streetcar" above ground portion over nothing any day of the week.

As a premier who never takes transit DoFo can cancel it without hesitation.

 

[sixrings]

As a premier who never takes transit DoFo can cancel it without hesitation.

Really... I wasn't planning on voting for him. Good luck making Ontario great again.

 

[rbt]

Speaking of which, it may not be possible for DoFo to cancel the whole project, but can he just cancel the above ground portion, since it fits "the damned streetcars" definition?

Doug can cancel sections (or the entire thing) if he likes; but the price will not decrease.

 

[Leo_Chan]

Doug can cancel the entire thing if he likes. The full price will be paid though, regardless of which (if any) pieces remain unbuilt.

Pay $7B to save $7B, just like Finch.

 

[Hopkins123]

Doug's position in 2014 was to grade-separate the entire section from Laird to Kennedy.

 

[BurlOak]

Doug's position in 2014 was to grade-separate the entire section from Laird to Kennedy.

That was the right decision then. Unfortunately, saner minds did not prevail.
At this stage, I don't think he could cancel it.
If I were him, after the election, I might announce that I will explore means of grade-separating it. This delay of a month or two would not be excessive, and when the costs come in, he can say its excessive.
Ideally for him, it will show that the cost would have been negligible if done correctly from the start, but at this time there is no turning back. That would just provide more proof on how much this line was messed up when Council and the Liberals went against Rob.

 

[Rainforest]

Speaking of which, it may not be possible for DoFo to cancel the whole project, but can he just cancel the above ground portion, since it fits "the damned streetcars" definition?

That depends on how twisted he is ideologically. But from the practical perspective (even for the vote-harvesting), there is no benefit for him in messing with the Eglinton project.

There is no known opposition to that particular stretch of street-median LRT amongst the locals. In fact, some of the locals indicated support for the LRT when they persuaded Metrolinx to retain the Leslie and Ferrand (now Aga Khan Park) stations.

 

[44 North]

That was the right decision then. Unfortunately, saner minds did not prevail.
At this stage, I don't think he could cancel it.
If I were him, after the election, I might announce that I will explore means of grade-separating it. This delay of a month or two would not be excessive, and when the costs come in, he can say its excessive.
Ideally for him, it will show that the cost would have been negligible if done correctly from the start, but at this time there is no turning back. That would just provide more proof on how much this line was messed up when Council and the Liberals went against Rob.

Wonder how 'late' it is for rethinking Crosstown between Laird and Kennedy. If it means that we keep Line 3, and subsequently interline this with Eglinton to SC, I think right and left would be on board. Even if it delayed Laird-Kennedy section by 5-10yrs.

We'd obviously drop SSE which many seem to want, and we'd offer a subway to SC (that actually has inline stations!). We're already rethinking Crosstown between Black Ck and Pearson by adding grade-separations, so it's not unprecedented to reconsider what kind of transit Line 5 is supposed to be. Net and political benefit could be somewhat positive. Also boosts business case for expanding RLS scope to Eglinton as a Phase 1 imo.

The onus would be on PCs to embrace affordable grade-separation (open air, cut/cover, elevated). Something I'm dubious about.

 

[hw621]

Delay 5-10 years?! Then it will end up another studway that is never connected to other lines.