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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

Avenue said:
Unpopular opinion but did we really need a Chaplin station? That's one too many stations (to serve near non-existent ridership) in Forest Hill.
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Yes otherwise there will be a 1.4km gap between Forest Hill and Avenue Rd. The station is closer to Forest Hill but the uphill walk would make it difficult for those with trouble walking.
 
Avenue said:
Unpopular opinion but did we really need a Chaplin station? That's one too many stations (to serve near non-existent ridership) in Forest Hill.
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Forest Hill Station is above Bathurst Station on Line 2. Chaplin Station is above Spadina Station on Line 2. Avenue Road Station is above Museum Station on Line 1. They skip St. George and Bay Stations.
 
W. K. Lis said:
Forest Hill Station is above Bathurst Station on Line 2. Chaplin Station is above Spadina Station on Line 2. Avenue Road Station is above Museum Station on Line 1. They skip St. George and Bay Stations.
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I don't understand why you'd compare Chaplin and Eglinton to Bay and Bloor. One is in the heart of the biggest commercial and tee densest residential areas in the country and the other one is merely suburban.
Not every line warrants the same station spacing.


Steve X said:
Yes otherwise there will be a 1.4km gap between Forest Hill and Avenue Rd. The station is closer to Forest Hill but the uphill walk would make it difficult for those with trouble walking.
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You can't build rapid transit to cater to 100% of population. If that's the logic we should only have bus routes with stops every 100m.
 
Yeesh. Of all the things to complain about. If anything, the tunneled section of the Crosstown should have more stops (at Little Blvd and at Banff Rd)
 
Avenue said:
You can't build rapid transit to cater to 100% of population. If that's the logic we should only have bus routes with stops every 100m.
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In your case, we should skip Oakwood and Mt Pleasant too. They are definitely as close to other station as Chaplin. I don't see why you wouldn't suggest removing Caledonia, Avenue Rd and Laird as well and place stations 2km apart since they are too close for your liking.
 
Avenue said:
I'm very annoyed by the mid-block stops in the east portion too. Don't get me wrong. There are stretches where the train won't even get to accelerate.
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Yup, the N-S concessions in Etobicoke and Scarborough are perfectly spaced for rapid transit. There's no need for midblock stations unless there's a significant trip generator there.
 
In last night's Metrolinx Town Hall, there was a question about why the Eglinton Crosstown LRT's surface stops were not enclosed and only getting shelters with 1 wall. The answer to the question was that that is not the case as they have 3 walls and a roof so they will be protected from the elements...

I don't mean to be skeptical as I believe it's just 1 long wall at the back and 2 short walls around 1-2 feet deep, which is definitely not enclosed.
 
Leo_Chan said:
In last night's Metrolinx Town Hall, there was a question about why the Eglinton Crosstown LRT's surface stops were not enclosed and only getting shelters with 1 wall. The answer to the question was that that is not the case as they have 3 walls and a roof so they will be protected from the elements...

I don't mean to be skeptical as I believe it's just 1 long wall at the back and 2 short walls around 1-2 feet deep, which is definitely not enclosed.
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I'm starting to think the people responsible for the decision have never used a transit shelter. Spadina's stations come to mind when visualizing their description. I remember those barely protecting from the elements.

I think the station design is going to be one of the biggest missed opportunities with the Crosstown. The lack of grade separation is minor compared to the comfort of the stations since being stuck on a streetcar in the middle of winter is much more comfortable than waiting on an open platform for said streetcar in the middle of winter.
 
Tuscani01 said:
I'm starting to think the people responsible for the decision have never used a transit shelter. Spadina's stations come to mind when visualizing their description. I remember those barely protecting from the elements.

I think the station design is going to be one of the biggest missed opportunities with the Crosstown. The lack of grade separation is minor compared to the comfort of the stations since being stuck on a streetcar in the middle of winter is much more comfortable than waiting on an open platform for said streetcar in the middle of winter.
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Local transit agencies seems scared to death of using enclosures that actually encloses. I suspect they are probably hung up on the whole safety and maintenance aspect.

AoD
 
Tuscani01 said:
I'm starting to think the people responsible for the decision have never used a transit shelter. Spadina's stations come to mind when visualizing their description. I remember those barely protecting from the elements.

I think the station design is going to be one of the biggest missed opportunities with the Crosstown. The lack of grade separation is minor compared to the comfort of the stations since being stuck on a streetcar in the middle of winter is much more comfortable than waiting on an open platform for said streetcar in the middle of winter.
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They said that they are working with a limited platform width because of the restricted road right-of-way width. Also, the platforms must be wide enough to stay accessible, therefore the shelters can't be larger.

Just make the road wider.
 
I hate to sound insensitive but Toronto transit riders act as if everything they get is half assed in comparison to other cities. On one thread we are complaining about the walking distance for transfers, another thread how often trains should come to be considered rapid and on this thread complaining that they are not fully enclosed shelters. I wont address the first two here but this issue somehow is not a issue in cities such as Calgary which is considerably colder and by the way their trains come far less often. I lived through it for three years and survived to tell that it does in fact work. Is it optimal? NO it isn't. That said it does work and if costs of security and or maintenance is the issue then I can live with it. Everything can't be 5 stars.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
Local transit agencies seems scared to death of using enclosures that actually encloses. I suspect they are probably hung up on the whole safety and maintenance aspect.

AoD
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I’m curious to know how and enclosed glass structure is more dangerous than an open one. And Metrolinx seems to have had no problem with this in York Region
 
sixrings said:
I hate to sound insensitive but Toronto transit riders act as if everything they get is half assed in comparison to other cities. On one thread we are complaining about the walking distance for transfers, another thread how often trains should come to be considered rapid and on this thread complaining that they are not fully enclosed shelters. I wont address the first two here but this issue somehow is not a issue in cities such as Calgary which is considerably colder and by the way their trains come far less often. I lived through it for three years and survived to tell that it does in fact work. Is it optimal? NO it isn't. That said it does work and if costs of security and or maintenance is the issue then I can live with it. Everything can't be 5 stars.
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I prefer to aspire to more than absolute mediocrity.
 
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