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[steveintoronto]

^ I think we can agree that the Kennedy situation was Metrolinx and/or contractor at their best, and Belleville underpass Metrolinx and the City at their worst. Belleville underpass was just yet again an example of how cyclists 'don't count'.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Here's a good example of the frustration I've been having with the management of lane markings during the Crosstown's construction. This is on westbound Eglinton Avenue approaching Spadina. Notice here that the lane immediately in front of the vehicle is marked as if it is an oncoming traffic lane. This car isn't in the incorrect lane (notice the position of the construction pylons separating opposing directions of traffic). The issue is that construction crews haphazardly reconfigured the lanes with the pylons, without reconfiguring the lane markings.

If you stand at the intersection, you'll notice some cars suddenly slowing down or swerving to the right, because they've observed that they're on the wrong side of the yellow line, and believe that they're on the wrong side of the road. This is the kind of unpredictability that causes collisions.

In no other construction project in the city have I seen such haphazard handling of lane markings.

 

[robmausser]

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Here's a good example of the frustration I've been having with the management of lane markings during the Crosstown's construction. This is on westbound Eglinton Avenue approaching Spadina. Notice here that the lane immediately in front of the vehicle is marked as if it is an oncoming traffic lane. This car isn't in the incorrect lane (notice the position of the construction pylons separating opposing directions of traffic). The issue is that construction crews haphazardly reconfigured the lanes with the pylons, without reconfiguring the lane markings.

If you stand at the intersection, you'll notice some cars suddenly slowing down or swerving to the right, because they've observed that they're on the wrong side of the yellow line, and believe that they're on the wrong side of the road. This is the kind of unpredictability that causes collisions.

In no other construction project in the city have I seen such haphazard handling of lane markings.

I swear Eglinton is a social experiment to see how often they can reconfigure the road pylons daily until someone breaks.

 

[Steve X]

Definitely key differences between the two. That being said there was imperative to do the Belleville project quickly too, albeit *relatively* quickly. It's not as if the major recreation corridor that was disrupted couldn't be described as "active" either. Obviously no one expects a trail underpass to be done in three days - which I guess is one reason they buffered for three weeks. Ample time, right? Yet somehow that promise morphed into ~70 weeks. C'mon, that's too much and needs to serve as a reminder. Like you imply when there's a will there's a way. But clearly in certain instances there isn't much of a will...and that notion is true for other projects too.

It's all money money money. The cost of doing something like that over a weekend is significantly higher than spread over months. It cost a lot to get workers out on a Saturday night digging than on a weekday morning. In comparison to East Asia, everyone seem lazy here. A weekend job needed 10 times the number of works than one spread over months.

When it comes to assets between two owners, things just take forever to avoid the blaming game when things go wrong. Yes it's so stupid here.

 

[raptor]

From the GO train, noticed test glazing for the Crosstown station entrances. This one said Avenue (using TTC font for those who were wondering). For those interested, it's located at the back of 1130 Caledonia, near the GO tracks. Sorry I couldn't catch pictures but it looks exactly like the renderings, thankfully.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

I swear Eglinton is a social experiment to see how often they can reconfigure the road pylons daily until someone breaks.

I’ve already seen at least one accident that can be attributed to this “social experiment”. I’m sure there has been many more.

 

[yrt+viva=1system]

Since the topic of overhead cantenary system was brought up in another thread, does anyone know what the Crosstown will be using in the underground portion of the line (eg. Suspended wire or rigid cantenary)?

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

Since the topic of overhead cantenary system was brought up in another thread, does anyone know what the Crosstown will be using in the underground portion of the line (eg. Suspended wire or rigid cantenary)?

Most lily a suspended wire as it's being designed from the ground up to be for LRT use. The ridged cantary like they are using in St. Clair is mainly used when there isn't space to hang the overhead as unlike with wire for a trolly pole wire for a pantograph needs to have some play to it and can sometimes hang lower.

 

[Leo_Chan]

My concern is that given what we've seen on Queens Quay that the tunnel portals may be a problem, hopefully I am wrong.

Well, there aren't many left turns onto Eglinton that are next to the portals. The only ones that may be an issue are from Kennedy southbound to Eglinton eastbound and Black Creek southbound to Eglinton eastbound. All the other portals don't have left turns near them.

 

[innsertnamehere]

Black creek portal won't have road access. Only Brentcliffe, the two Don Mills portals, and Kennedy.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

Most lily a suspended wire as it's being designed from the ground up to be for LRT use. The ridged cantary like they are using in St. Clair is mainly used when there isn't space to hang the overhead as unlike with wire for a trolly pole wire for a pantograph needs to have some play to it and can sometimes hang lower.

Edmonton uses a wire, but Ottawa is using rigid in the stations (low clearance due to the mezzanine overhead) . I suppose it all depends on how much clearance they've allowed

 

[BurlOak]

Black creek portal won't have road access. Only Brentcliffe, the two Don Mills portals, and Kennedy.

With a predominantly south side alignment, all Portals could have been off the road to eliminate this risk completely. (and it would have reduced construction disruption as well).

 

[TheTigerMaster]

A new station box has been revealed! (Chaplin Station)

 

[smallspy]

Edmonton uses a wire, but Ottawa is using rigid in the stations (low clearance due to the mezzanine overhead) . I suppose it all depends on how much clearance they've allowed

Ottawa is using rigid catenary in all tunnelled sections, not just in the stations, specifically because of the clearances.

I'd be inclined to think that the Crosstown will be using rigid throughout the tunnelled sections for the same reason.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

 

[torontopeter]

A new station box has been revealed! (Chaplin Station)

How do you know that’s a station box? Speaking as not a construction guy.