Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[TheTigerMaster]

I actually prefer how Toronto's Rocket Trains will indefinitely use the screens inside to remind me that all three levels of government funded them. I usually get pretty worried about how it ended up on the tracks.

Hey, some of the Rocket screens have very useful information: such as telling us not to litter. I diligently watch those screens on every trip.

Why do you hate the screens? You must support littering. Do you support littering? Hey, everyone, BMO supports littering!

 

[maxt797]

Been in Montreal all week, hopefully whatever vehicles we have running on the Crosstown have some significant improvements over the current flexity streetcars and rocket subway trains. The new Azur Montreal Metro trains have probably the nicest interior and exterior appearance of ANY metro train I have ever been on and has lots of features that SHOULD be on the Toronto Rockets like useful TV screens displaying the next few stations.

WOW, this thing is looooouuuddd!!!

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Been in Montreal all week, hopefully whatever vehicles we have running on the Crosstown have some significant improvements over the current flexity streetcars and rocket subway trains. The new Azur Montreal Metro trains have probably the nicest interior and exterior appearance of ANY metro train I have ever been on and has lots of features that SHOULD be on the Toronto Rockets like useful TV screens displaying the next few stations.

Those run of the mill Montreal stations all look nicer than just about anything we have in Toronto.

 

[robmausser]

Those run of the mill Montreal stations all look nicer than just about anything we have in Toronto.

Montreal has better stations, Toronto has better trains. Even than the new ones in Montreal.

Every friend who I have from Montreal agrees. The new Montreal trains may have nice displays and colours and look slick, but they are skinny and cramped inside, and the ride on the rubber tyres is loud and jostles around.

Not to mention that they don't have Air Conditioning and don't go as fast as the TTC Rocket subway trains. People argue they do, but its the perception of the jostling, they do not have as fast of a max speed, period.

Montreal = nicer stations.

Toronto = nicer trains.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Montreal has better stations, Toronto has better trains. Even than the new ones in Montreal.

Every friend who I have from Montreal agrees. The new Montreal trains may have nice displays and colours and look slick, but they are skinny and cramped inside, and the ride on the rubber tyres is loud and jostles around.

Not to mention that they don't have Air Conditioning and don't go as fast as the TTC Rocket subway trains. People argue they do, but its the perception of the jostling, they do not have as fast of a max speed, period.

Montreal = nicer stations.

Toronto = nicer trains.

The Montreal Metro trains are the same width as our streetcars. The light rail vehicles for the Crosstown LRT (and Finch West) will be wider than both our streetcars and Montreal Metro trains.

 

[TransitBart]

The light rail vehicles for the Crosstown LRT (and Finch West) will be wider than both our streetcars and Montreal Metro trains.

Thank god. Imagine the cost of this thing and the capacity no greater than a current streetcar.

 

[BurlOak]

The Montreal Metro trains are the same width as our streetcars. The light rail vehicles for the Crosstown LRT (and Finch West) will be wider than both our streetcars and Montreal Metro trains.

A quick search suggest the following:

• TTC SRT = 2490 mm
• Montreal trains = 2500 mm
• TTC streetcar = 2540 mm
• TTC LRT = 2650 mm
• Canada Line Vancouver = 3000 mm
• TTC subway = 3140 mm

 

[allabootmatt]

A quick search suggest the following:

• TTC SRT = 2490 mm
• Montreal trains = 2500 mm
• TTC streetcar = 2540 mm
• TTC LRT = 2650 mm
• Canada Line Vancouver = 3000 mm
• TTC subway = 3140 mm

TTC trains really are very, very wide and spacious. Compare them to the rush-hour situation in Paris or on London’s deep-level lines and it’s really night and day. I know we rightly critcize our forebears for not adequately planning for growth in many respects, but this is one they got right.

 

[Allandale25]

MPP Yvan Baker sent a notice to his email newsletter subscribers about the November 13th and 15th public consultation meetings with this opinion:

I am concerned about the work that staff have done, the conclusions that they have drawn and how this could impact the design of the LRT in our community.

I will be there to express my concerns and to continue advocating for the tunnelling of the LRT.

It is important that our community’s voice be heard on this important issue. I hope that you will be able to join us on Monday night at Martingrove Collegiate to ask questions and share your input with City of Toronto staff.

The original meeting notification can be found below.

 

[sixrings]

Subways for all. How original.

 

[Amare]

That's a really touching message Yvan sent to his constituents. It's too bad that he's really delusional when it comes to this file.

 

[aquateam]

The Montreal Metro trains are the same width as our streetcars. The light rail vehicles for the Crosstown LRT (and Finch West) will be wider than both our streetcars and Montreal Metro trains.

A quick search suggest the following:

• TTC SRT = 2490 mm
• Montreal trains = 2500 mm
• TTC streetcar = 2540 mm
• TTC LRT = 2650 mm
• Canada Line Vancouver = 3000 mm
• TTC subway = 3140 mm

The streetcars may be (4 cm) wider than the Montreal metro trains, but the layout of the new metro trains is much better for passenger circulation than the new Toronto streetcars. You don't have the double forward-facing seats at both sides of the car in the new metro except at the ends of the train.

E.g. this is very hard to move through if anyone is standing in the row:

but in the Montreal trains they have single seat rows on one side and double rows on the other side so it is still possible to move through:

 

[Markster]

The streetcars may be (4 cm) wider than the Montreal metro trains, but the layout of the new metro trains is much better for passenger circulation than the new Toronto streetcars. You don't have the double forward-facing seats at both sides of the car in the new metro except at the ends of the train.

E.g. this is very hard to move through if anyone is standing in the row:

but in the Montreal trains they have single seat rows on one side and double rows on the other side so it is still possible to move through:

An unfortunate consequence of 100% low floor. Those double seats are sitting on top of the bogies for the wheels. They couldn't move them if they wanted to.
Having been inside the Waterloo LRV, which will be the same as Toronto's, it is a noticeably wider hallway between those seats. That extra 10cm is definitely in play. It still isn't ideal, but it's better.

 

[WillTo]

E.g. this is very hard to move through if anyone is standing in the row:


but in the Montreal trains they have single seat rows on one side and double rows on the other side so it is still possible to move through:

True, but in the majority of cases you don't have to squeeze through the double quad part to get to an exit.

 

[Hopkins123]

Subways for all. How original.

Eglinton is 60-70 km/h driving speeds through Richview. Yeah, let's force commuters, many of them senior citizens, to cross into the road median to access an LRT.