WillTo
Senior Member
No Mt. Pleasant :-(
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Steve X
Senior Member
St Clair ROW used as a model to transit city is clearly applying here. It's actually an upgrade from Spadian and St Clair. GO train platform lacks protection too. The best they can do is probably a complete roof cover over the platform like Rosedale. A glass shelter with doors would face accessibility problems and these platforms are way too smaller for them. There only like 1.5 or 2m wide.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
If Rosedale & Davisville Stations can use a "cheap" outdoor platform cover, so can the outdoor stops on the Crosstown.
Cobra
Senior Member
Then people are surprised about the negativity surrounding LRT in the city. For Godsake, can't they do it right instead of half-ass it to open themselves to critics?
crs1026
Superstar
Then people are surprised about the negativity surrounding LRT in the city. For Godsake, can't they do it right instead of half-ass it to open themselves to critics?
So true. The average citizen has every right to ask the rabid LRT proponent "Show me one that works". Toronto does not have an example. Few people will be convinced by what goes on elsewhere. It has to be done locally.
The up side is - if we have a local success, people will demand more of same.
Why ML would be in such a hurry to do this one less than excellently is beyond me. If Crosstown is mediocre, it will be a decade before there is any interest in another one.
- Paul
Sakraycore
Active Member
It's Rosedale station that looks pathetic for a subway station, not that the crosstown stops look any good. This LRT looks bad, and not much of an upgrade from buses already.
OneCity
Senior Member
It's a drastic drop off between the station designs of the underground more "privileged" areas of the City to these outdoor "shelters". In addition to the fact they are questionable practical weather cover, having such a discrepancy and lack of effort in design just feeds fuel to our current Poltical landscape of the inner suburbs getting the shorter end of the stick. Have to say this would be true here.
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Sakraycore
Active Member
To be very honest, I think the rapid bus transit along highway 7 is leagues better than this particular LRT right here...
LRT looks sad compared to the above:
LRT looks sad compared to the above:
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
That's a really odd thing to say - most of the at grade stations are in areas that are currently industrial/strip retail in nature - and they are at grade only because there is space for it.
And if you want to go on this route - perhaps keep in mind that Rosedale station (and Davisville) remained above ground despite being in "privileged" areas of the city for more than 50 years.
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Johnny Au
Superstar
Stations could be designed similar to those of Curitiba:
...except modified for LRTs.
...except modified for LRTs.
Sakraycore
Active Member
Really really sad to see rapid bus transit having stations much much better than this LRT...
People along Eglinton are getting shortchanged...
People along Eglinton are getting shortchanged...
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Most if not all of downtown have far worse shelters than these ones proposed for Eglinton, and they are and will be far more heavily used as well. You wanted to talk about getting "shortchanged"?
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Sakraycore
Active Member
Those kind of stations are acceptable for buses, but really too poor of quality for LRTs imo.
I know the Spadina streetcars have stations that are similarly bad, and that's why I never liked that line.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
That didn't really answer the question though - if you are saying Eglinton is shortchanged, then Spadina, Harbourfront and even St. Clair is even more extremely short-changed, both as an absolute statement of the condition and relative to ridership. People have been using them for ages now, why is that acceptable there and not here?
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Sakraycore
Active Member
We've seen them do better with rapid bus transit .... there's no reason they can't do better now. It's 2017 now, not 1997. We expect better now.