Who's done better on transit? Vancouver or Toronto

[MisterF]

The grass is always greener, isn't it.

I'm not sure if Vancouver IS well-served really. Burnaby might be well served, but not so much Vancouver. There isn't any service anywhere near UBC - perhaps one of the more important nodes in the city.

Less overcrowded? Perhaps if they'd built 200-metre long stations and used wide trains like in Toronto. But the 40-metre long Canada line stations and narrow trains:

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-...crowded-buses-trains-and-more-time-in-traffic
http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canada-line-seating-configuration
http://www.cknw.com/2014/09/12/canada-line-stations-overcrowded/
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/translink-ceo-six-months-1.3803113
http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2014/08/...-skytrain-canada-line-built-nearing-capacity/

That doesn't really contradict what I was saying though. Stations might be getting overcrowded and the Canada Line might be getting near capacity, but that's nothing compared to Yonge-Bloor Station and Line 1 in general. The Broadway extension is in the works, which will increase coverage in central Vancouver significantly and eventually reach UBC. All in all, Toronto has far more parts of the city that are nowhere near rapid transit. RER, Eginton and the DRL will improve the situation tremendously, but each is a case of playing catch-up after 30 years of next to no expansion.

 

[ssiguy2]

The Canada Line capacity is obscenely low and the stations are Tonka-toys but the rest of the SkyTrain has more than enough capacity. All the stations of the Expo, Millenium, and Evergreen lines are built to be easily expandable to 105 meters...........with the new MK111 trains it's the equivalent capacity of about 11 MK1 trains running by every 90 seconds.

Toronto is finally building again thanks to Queen's Park building as oppose to the City and RER could be a game changer carrying easily up to a million passengers a day within 20 years or end up being a waste of funds all depending on how they gear the fares.

 

[snowystar]

The Canada Line capacity is obscenely low and the stations are Tonka-toys but the rest of the SkyTrain has more than enough capacity.

The only reason that the Canada Line is "nearing capacity" right now is that there is not enough trains. Once the new trains arrive in 2019 and capacity improve from 6,500 to 10,000 pphpd, there will be plenty of space and no one would complain anymore. Even with the extra trains, there are still some way to go until the line reaches the design capacity of 15,000 pphpd and becomes "over capacity".

 

[mind_the_gap]

Just to add my input. I really do prefer the new next train arrival boards Vancouver is using. They display the arrival times of the next three trains, the time of day, and the fourth row of text is dedicated to general messages and service disruptions.

These nifty displays at station entrances are very useful too!

When the TTC installed these displays at the entrances to subway stations, I assumed they'd eventually show the arrival times of the next trains (and possibly surface routes), but that's yet to happen... It would be very useful information to provide as you enter the station - many cities around the world already do it.