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West Queen West / A&D District

Let's see: 10 minute bike ride to Bay St. 30 minute walk. How many residents will have their own cars? Probably over 75%. The area needs a few thousand more residents--feels like a ghost town most of the time.

Have you been in this area in rush hour on a bike? It's horribly dangerous. There have been many deaths. And how may people do you suppose who work on Bay St. are cycling?
I really hope 75% of these people don't act like suburbanites and drive to work. This would make the already barely ride-able transit even worse and make cycling even more dangerous.

Mysterman: That rail corridor is useless until Go puts in a station. And we all know how slow Go acts. I doubt people would pay the extra fare to go to union or dundas w. station on the once an hour train. Don't get me wrong though, I'd love this corridor to be used--and the presto card might be useful here.
 
Bohemian Embassy Groundbreaking

I know this doesn't mean much but...

The Bohemian is rising

The Condos Guide
Issue: Oct 1, 2007 - Oct 15, 2007

On Thursday, September 20, the Bohemian Embassy Flats and Lofts celebrated their groundbreaking with an energy that stopped traffic along the west Queen Street West corridor. The evening event was an *invitation-only party for purchasers and industry partners to celebrate the beginning of construction. A live band, *sponsorship from Steam Whistle Brewery and a uniquely decorated outdoor space helped to create an atmosphere that couldn’t help but attract attention – and with the warm weather, everyone was in high spirits.

Situated on Queen Street West at Gladstone Avenue, in the heart of Toronto’s cultural hub, the first phase of the Bohemian Embassy will soon be rising. There are still select units available in Phase 1 and in the coming weeks, Phase II of the project will launch, adding a much-anticipated 40 new units to the already hugely successful project.

At the groundbreaking ceremony, co-owner Frank Canonaco spoke to the crowd and expressed his enthusiasm for the project and the neighbourhood. “My brothers and I grew up just down the street from this very spot so this *project is very special for us†said Canonaco. “Getting ready to break ground on Phase 1 of the Bohemian Embassy and getting set to launch the second phase is all very exciting and affirms that our vision for this development is in keeping with what the community and buyers are *looking for in a downtown condo.â€

Urbanites appreciate Queen Street West’s restaurants, cafés, boutiques and nightspots that feed their eclectic lifestyle. Topping off this exciting residential opportunity, Bohemian Embassy boasts proximity to the Queen Street streetcar, which places the subway and *everything else Toronto has to offer at its doorstep.

Bohemian Embassy will encompass two *buildings and a collection of townhomes, all designed by renowned Page + Steele Architects. The lobbies and building amenities will *showcase the creative work of II By IV Design Associates Inc. The building designs reflect the vibrant ambience and architecture of this charming area.

With the current sales office being torn down to make way for the rising of Phase 1, the Bohemian Sales office has moved to 1093 Queen St. W. at Dovercourt. Get in to Toronto’s most vibrant community and become part of the Embassy today. Be sure to register for the opportunity to preview the release of the Bohemian Embassy Phase II. To learn more, call 416-516-1212 or register online at www.bohemianembassy.ca.

http://www.newhomesandcondos.com/modules/magazine/article.asp?AID=5701&MID=4&IDATE=10/1/2007&CMID=4&CIDATE=10/1/2007
 
City, developers reach a deal on West Queen West

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There’s actual good news out of the Giant Clam today. The city has reached a deal with developers and neighbourhood activists in the protracted fight for the future of the West Queen West triangle — that’s the hipster area bounded by Queen St. W to the north, Dovercourt Rd. to the east and the curving train tracks to the south and west. A former industrial wasteland revitalized by The Drake, The Gladstone and an influx of artists, the triangle and its sought-after properties have been caught up in tussles between condo developers and city planners at the Ontario Municipal Board and at Divisional Court. The agreement unveiled this morning will see the old Carnegie Library Building transformed into a theatre, a new urban park built off Lisgar St. and plenty of live-work affordable units included in condo plans to keep artists in the area. "This is, from my perspective, a ground-breaking deal," said Jane Farrow, the chair of Active 18, the community group that helped broker the deal. "It could hopefully serve as a model. It's not really just about the triangle. It's about making Toronto a place that doesn't become a bedroom community for the suburbs."

Here are some of the details of the agreement (courtesy of the city):


Two new agreements that have been reached with developers include community contributions:

150 Sudbury St. – West Side Lofts, a Landmark Development Corporation condominium (design pictured above):

* 56,000 square feet sold to Toronto Artscape at a significant discount for artist live/work studios, of which approximately 52 units would be affordable for low-income artists
* $250,000 towards the cost of relocating the Toronto Public Health offices out of the Beatrice Lilly Centre (also known as the Carnegie Library building)
* $1 million towards the restoration and conversion of the historic Carnegie Library building from municipal offices to a Performing Arts Hub

45 Lisgar St. - a rental apartment building by Medallion Corporation:

* 10,000 square feet for new offices for Public Health at no cost over a 50-year period
* Toronto Public Health will relocate their offices from the Beatrice Lilly Centre at 1115 Queen Street W. so the building can be converted to a theatre

Previously signed agreements with developers also include community contributions:

1171 Queen St. W. – Bohemian Embassy Condos by Baywood Homes:

* $500,000 for community arts infrastructure

48 Abell St. – a developer, Verdiroc, with an affordable housing provider, St. Clare’s Multi-Faith:

* 190 affordable housing units, funded through the City and which include 28 artist live/work studios at affordable rents
* a minimum of six artist work studios (approximately 3600 sq. ft. of space) along the new Creative Mews - studios will be sold to the City at below market rates.

(from the National Post)
 
now i see where this will be built....


Yeah that area needs to be redeveloped...
 
Now why do "low income" artists get all the breaks and lobbyists? Why can't working poor live in areas like this?

Jane Farrow is an elitist lobbying for the elite: the established artists of WqueenW. Many of the artists come from white middleclass backgrounds--parents that could afford to send their kids to arts schools.

Yet if factory workers demanded to live in affordable condos downtown would anyone listen or accommodate their desires? (What the hell is affordable anyway? $100,000 for a 1 bedroom?)

While it's nice to have artists essentially what is being created here is another Yorkville: A "controlled" creative area frozen in perpetuity--kind of like the CBC (who employs Jane Farrow I believe) employs the same hosts for decades.... The area already seems to have more German automobiles per km than any other part of town besides Forest Hill.

I find it ironic that so called "open minded" artists are in fact afraid of change.

Now, sensitive attractive landscaping and architecture should come natural to a grown up city; but what's so grown up about the Active18 crowd?

Again tonight on my Dundas West walk from Bathurst St to Bloor West I counted over 300 empty abandoned storefronts--surely cheap rent for artists?
 
I've noticed that about Dundas as well. It seems like a logical destination for the next great artistic diaspora.
 
This news makes me very happy... Yippy! It's great to hear Artscape is involved.
Re: affordable housing
There is general affordable housing going in at the re-designed CAMH site. Yes, Toronto needs more affordable housing but it also needs affordable studios. And this is the right place for it.
 
Deal signed in artsy triangle

Deal signed in artsy triangle
Agreement ends city's legal battle with developers

Kelly Grant
National Post

Wednesday, October 31, 2007

The city has reached a unique deal with a pair of developers to bring a new theatre, urban park and plenty of cheap artists' studios to the Queen West Triangle.

"This is, from my perspective, a groundbreaking deal," said Jane Farrow, chairwoman of Active 18, a group of artists and activists from Ward 18 who helped forge the compromise.

"It could hopefully serve as a model. It's not really just about the Triangle. It's about making Toronto a place that doesn't become a bedroom community for the suburbs."

The arrangement, unveiled yesterday at City Hall, puts at least a temporary end to a protracted battle over the future of the Triangle, an artsy pocket located south of Queen Street West near Dovercourt Road.

The centrepiece of the deal is a plan by Landmark Development Corporation to build a new condominium at 150 Sudbury St., which will include 56,000 square feet of space for artists to live and create at affordable prices.

Although the space has been independently appraised at $19-million, Landmark will sell it to Artscape, a non-profit organization that acts as a landlord to creative types across the city, for $8.4-million.

Artscape will then sell or rent up to 70 units in the building at discounted rates for artists.

A one-bedroom unit in the artists' space is expected to rent for $725 per month, said Tim Jones, the president and chief executive of Artscape.

Slated to open in 2010, the building will comprise an 18-storey east tower and a six-storey west tower.

"It's a groundbreaking project in a number of ways," Mr. Jones said, adding the project's self-financing model could serve as a city-wide template.

"It means that if we can do it here in the Triangle, we can build hundreds of these units across the city."

Landmark's largesse is also helping transform the old Carnegie Library, a nearly 100-year-old building with soaring ceilings that houses Toronto Public Health offices, into a "new performing arts hub."

The developer will pay $250,000 to relocate the health offices and another $1-million to help restore and convert the Carnegie building at 1115 Queen St. W. into a theatre.

The health offices will move into the main floor of the second contentious Triangle development to get the go-ahead as part of the arrangement revealed yesterday.

Medallion Corporation, which now has city approval to build a rental apartment complex with a 14-storey south tower and seven-storey north tower at 45 Lisgar St., will set aside 10,000 square feet in the building to the city to house the health offices for free.

The battle for the future of the Queen West Triangle has been going on for more than two years. A former industrial area, the Triangle gained new life with the opening of the Drake and the Gladstone Hotel and with an influx of artists who converted the old warehouses into funky homes and studios.

Condo developers soon followed. After the Ontario Municipal Board approved three condo projects the city opposed -- at 1171 Queen St. W., 48 Abell St., and 150 Sudbury -- the city signed compromises with developers at the first two sites.

It challenged the OMB's decision on 150 Sudbury in court and won leave to appeal to a higher court over the summer. The case was outstanding until yesterday's deal.

Adam Giambrone, the local councillor, could not say how much the city paid in legal fees fighting area developers.

While at least four other development applications are pending in the Triangle, Mr. Giambrone said the deals at 150 Sudbury and 45 Lisgar set a positive precedent.
© National Post 2007
 
City, builder reach artful compromise

City, builder reach artful compromise TheStar.com - GTA - City, builder reach artful compromise
Developer agrees to provide affordable housing for Queen W. artists in exchange for taller buildings
October 31, 2007
Jim Byers
city hall bureau chief

Yorkville's artist culture was lost to glitzy hotels and trendy restaurants years ago. City and community officials yesterday unveiled a compromise plan that could keep the Queen-Dovercourt neighbourhood from suffering the same fate.

The plan, reached in concert with the developer of the West Side Lofts condo project, includes work space and homes for artists as well as other community benefits in exchange for slightly higher buildings. Local activists warned that more battles are ahead in the West Queen West area, but they were thrilled to mark the end of this particular battle.

Jane Farrow, of the community group Active 18, said dozens of Monday-night meetings "with tortilla chips and bottles of wine" were needed to reach the compromise between the city, local residents, artists and the developers.

The proposal previously called for six-storey and 15-storey towers on lots south of Queen on Sudbury St. and Lisgar St. The 15-storey building has been bumped up to 18 storeys, in exchange for which the developer will provide up to 52 units of affordable housing for low-income artists – space that will be sold to Toronto Artscape at a large discount.

The development company, Urbancorp., is also providing $1.25 million for a performing arts centre in the old Carnegie Library building on Queen St. and probably $750,000 or so for a new park, plus artists' space, said president Alan Saskin.

Farrow said the community didn't mind giving the developer more density because there will be tangible benefits.

"Artscape ... has figured out a way to keeep some creative people in the (Queen West) triangle in the midst of this exponential growth," she said.

"The city worked very long and hard to retain jobs in the triangle specifically. This is crucial as Toronto becomes condo-ized and becomes a bedroom community to the suburbs."

Local city councillor Adam Giambrone said it's the first time he can recall the city managing to find a way to protect artists from development.

"This is truly groundbreaking," agreed Tim Jones, CEO of Artscape. "If we can do it here in the triangle, we can build hundreds of these units across the city."

Farrow said the Ontario Municipal Board made things worse by overturning the city's original plans for the area.

Earlier this year, however, the city won the right to appeal the OMB ruling in court, and that spurred the parties to work toward the compromise.

"We've learned that the planning process is quite broken in Toronto," Farrow said. "This is a happy moment in an overall, not-such-a-happy story. There are many things unresolved in the triangle."

City officials said they couldn't say how much the appeals and OMB process cost because the battle involved staff time and not outside costs. But a legal source with knowledge of the situation said staff costs were in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Saskin said construction should start in January and take about two years.
 
A one bedroom for $725 is "affordable" to a poor starving artist? Nonsense! There's a reason smart artistic types are moving to Hamilton: $400 for a one bedroom much better value!

I was paying $700 for a 2 bedroom apartment in montreal--even better value for a beautiful city and artsy scene.

I think I know the kind of artists that will be living there: established, left wing activist types with some kind of connections to the established social networks (OAC? elitist fools).... And how long will the rent remain at $725/month? do the condo fees from buyers cover the cost of subsidizing this space? $725 isn't that cheap and is probably what the average 1 bedroom older apartment will rent for in 2010 once all these 1 bedroom condos are completed. (A huge glut of empty one bedroom condos will surely drive rents down?)

It will be interesting to see middle class young professionals paying decent money to live next to the working poor "artists." Would these same buyers live in the new Regent Park? The fact some young people with small salaries do buy condos--foolish but they are wannabe status seekers--means there might be poorer people living in the condos than in the subsidized artist's space!

So it will be an artificial social housing experiment? We know how these things end....
 
Downtown artists prove to be masters in the art of the deal


JOHN BARBER

October 31, 2007

How 'bout those crazy artists? While the MBA'ed uptowners squawk helplessly about uncontrolled development, the downtown artists just won the richest package of public benefits any residential development has ever coughed up in return for a building permit in Toronto. Who knew the self-proclaimed "creative class" was so hard-nosed?

There are almost enough goodies built into this otherwise ordinary deal for condo projects near Queen Street West and Dufferin Street to justify the orgy of self-congratulation it produced at city hall yesterday. Politicians, artists, planners and even the developer himself gathered to praise what one called a "historic moment" and another hailed as "a watershed moment in our evolution as a creative city."

It's a complicated arrangement that grew from the initiative of two non-profit organizations - Toronto Artscape and Active 18, a Queen West community group - after official plans for the site ground to the usual stalemate at the Ontario Municipal Board. The multiple benefits, including affordable studios, the creation of a new performance space and a new park, have a cash value of more than $20-million. Not a bad haul from two buildings, the highest of which is 18 storeys.

Well might the uptowners wince when reminded of their gains from the controversial settlement that approved the Minto towers at Yonge and Eglinton, the shortest of which is 38 storeys. As another influential group with the power to transform local zoning battles into citywide causes, the North Toronto professionals not only failed to cut the development down to size, they gained a mere $1-million in local benefits - a smattering of affordable housing none of them asked for.

The contrast is stark but the moral of the story, if any, is more nuanced.

One might suppose that such benefits are like any other rents: When demand is high, they go up; when it slackens, they plummet. The best evidence comes from new neighbourhoods approved at the low point of the cycle, like City Place in the early 1990s and Harbourfront a decade earlier, conceived when development of any kind was welcomed as its own reward.

With mid-cycle projects like the Minto towers, developers increase the quality and begin to dole out goodies. When they start competing for scarce new sites, big-name architects abound and public benefits flow freely.

But market-based analysis only goes so far in that judicial casino operated by the Queen's Park mob and known as the Ontario Municipal Board. Uncomfortably for them, Active 18 and the "creative class" didn't win their case entirely on its merits. They also won big at the quasi-judicial craps table.

The OMB inadvertently tipped the odds in the public's favour with its initial, no-questions-asked approval of the Queen Triangle development. The decision was so contemptuous of city policy a Superior Court judge ultimately quashed it, after a long, expensive struggle. Stalemated by a real court, the developer decided to negotiate rather than try his luck again.

But anything can happen in that joint. Consider the little-known proposal for a 34-storey tower on the south side of King Street, east of Spadina, which the OMB just approved despite city's most strenuous objections and dearest policies. Some guy used to collect a few thousand dollars a month renting his little plot to a muffler shop. Now he, his assigns and successors are all zillionaires, courtesy of one quick trip to the casino.

And there are no little side deals eating up the winnings. They are 100 per cent exempt from municipal taxes in any form.

The significance of yesterday's victory is symbolic, demonstrating not only the city's commitment to downtown artists but also a new, co-operative way to work around crazy casino planning. This way, everybody wins.

jbarber@globeandmail.com
 
I really hope 75% of these people don't act like suburbanites and drive to work. This would make the already barely ride-able transit even worse and make cycling even more dangerous.

They could always bury the streetcar line thereby avoidance of surface traffic.
 
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Proposals for three condo developments near the Gladstone Hotel are the wrong scale in the wrong place with the wrong design.

John Bentley Mays
Globe and Mail
November 23, 2007 at 12:00 AM EST


Viewed in the grand scheme of all things Toronto, the Queen West triangle is not a big deal. It's just another tiny parcel of old industrial land of the kind that abounds along the railway corridors that criss-cross the city.

Before Toronto's current real estate boom, this undistinguished plot of ground — wedged between the CNR tracks and Dovercourt Road, and lying south of Queen Street West — was largely, and understandably, ignored by developers and local residents alike.

But in the past couple of years, the triangle has emerged as an important battlefield. Though the area is small, the contest being waged there addresses large, crucial questions: What kind of city will we have when the condo building frenzy is over and the housing market settles into quieter patterns? Will the things we cherish about our traditional neighbourhoods survive? Or will they be lost forever?

In the ongoing struggle over the triangle, condominium developers, who regard the long-undervalued land as a good business opportunity, are pitted against community activists convinced that tall residential buildings on the south side of Queen Street will ruin the low-rise, small-shop character of the district.

City planners and politicians, whose job it is to think seriously about the future of our neighbourhoods, seem to be dithering squarely in the middle, publicly sympathizing with the local opponents of tall-building schemes while giving the developers anything they ask for.

In recent months, the area's vociferous residents have been turning up on the losing side of this argument. A bid to stop a scheme by Baywood Homes to put up some egregiously out-sized condominium towers on the south side of Queen, near its intersection with Gladstone Avenue, collapsed last summer when city planners caved in to the demands of the developer and allowed the company to proceed with building heights exceeding those permissible under the city's official plan.

More bad news for the residents came last week, during a public meeting (chaired by Councillor Adam Giambrone) at the Parkdale Public Library. At this noisy gathering — the local folk who attended were not amused — city planners and developers unveiled three new condo-block proposals for the Queen West triangle. If approved and constructed at the heights applied for, two of these buildings will stand eight storeys tall, while the third will rise to nine storeys, plus a two-storey mechanical penthouse.

These structures would take up most of the buildable lots on the south side of Queen between Gladstone and Dovercourt. A couple of "heritage" buildings, including a plump and officious former public library and Woolfitt's art supply store, are almost all that will prevent the transformation of this stretch of Queen into a solid wall of condominiums.

All three proposals should be stopped dead in their tracks. They represent the worst of all possible worlds: the wrong scale in the wrong place, and the wrong architectural design.

First, scale. As long-time readers of this column know, I appreciate tall buildings, and consider them valuable city-building tools. But I also believe that, like all design types, buildings over five storeys or so must be put down in the urban fabric with great care. Despite its low mumble of short buildings, the downtown stretch of important Yonge Street, for example, is destined to be lined with soaring monuments of steel and stone, and so it should be.

Queen Street West is another matter. Though city officials have dubbed it a principal street — and long ago it surely was one — latter-day Queen is no such thing. It is a zone of workshops and workers, of places where things are made, shown and marketed. Its attractive north-side streetscape is composed of little shops, galleries, pawn shops and the like, with storefronts and doorways every few metres. The building scale appropriate to this neighbourhood of small enterprises is that of the artisan's shed and shop, the artist's studio, the single-family dwelling, or, at the biggest, the compact factory building. Certainly not heavy, eight- and nine-storey chunks of residential architecture.

Then there's the utterly wrong architecture of these proposed developments. Designed by Brian Sickle of the Toronto firm Page + Steele, the bulked-up buildings will be wrapped in pseudo-Victorian confectionery. This tiresomely reactionary treatment might be welcome in some sterile suburb hankering for "history," but it has no place on one of downtown Toronto's most vibrant streets.

What's needed here is the most creative, intelligent contemporary design available — something with enough modern, high-style flair, surely, to match the splendid Romanesque Gladstone Hotel across the street.

Such architecture is available, if the developer wants to look for it. Cities around the world are undertaking the renewal of former industrial lands like the Queen West triangle, with often stunning results. That's what Toronto needs and deserves, and we should settle for nothing less on Queen: architecture that's drop-dead stunning.
 
I couldn't agree more with the JBM column. It just frustrates me so much. Everybody knows that West Queen West is an interesting and successful strip. Everybody knows that these condos will totally destroy that atmosphere, and yet the city acts utterly powerless to do anything significant about it. A few "live-work" units are not going to make a strip of faux-Victorian condos a positive contribution to this neighbourhood. I understand the politics behind it, and I'm happy that the OMB has finally been reformed, but I fear that even without that Sword of Damocles hanging over the city, nothing would have been done to protect this newly-thriving neighbourhood.

I understand that "arts and culture" neighbourhoods a bit on the edge like this exist for the simple reason that they're on the edge. I suppose I've been fortunate to have enjoyed the area while it lasted (it's already a bit on the way out) and I guess it won't stay as dynamic as it was at the beginning. Still, it would have been nice to have preserved some of the positive attributes of the neighbourhood and allow it to pass in a somewhat more gradual and dignified manner into its staid residential future.
 

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