Toronto St Lawrence Market North | 25.3m | 5s | City of Toronto | Rogers Stirk Harbour

Taken 8 April.

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DSC said:
There were explainable delays BEFORE construction, but construction has taken far too long, even allowing for covid. The city's project management has not been good and an auditor general report might find systemic problems.
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Fair enough! And for the record, I am not justifying it...just trying to explain it from what I know of it...or lack there of.
 
Does anyone know if there is there a rentable event space in this complex? Any link to the programming or floorplans would be helpful.
 
YIMBY519 said:
Does anyone know if there is there a rentable event space in this complex? Any link to the programming or floorplans would be helpful.
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The main level WILL be rentable just as the old North Market was. The upper floors will presumably NOT be rentable as they are mainly for the courts. There is a restaurant on 1st floor but it has not yet, I think, been leased and there is a "Seniors' Centre area adjacent to it which has not yet been 'programed'.
 
Forgive me if it’s already been discussed, what is the idea here behind the building? Is there a plan to renovate St. Lawrence Hall and connect the offices? I may be wrong but I think the great hall is above on the third story so it would not be impacted by a hall here.
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EDIT: already answered my own question:
The principal benefits that will result from the project's completion include:
  • A physical link to the second level of St. Lawrence Hall, which will allow the buildings to function as a single facility and provide access to the Toronto Parking Authority parking garage, thereby enhancing the leasing potential of St. Lawrence Hall for events and public gatherings.
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No doubt you will all be surprised to hear that I have now received a response to my FOI Request about the trumpet colours.

Further to our letter of February 2, 2022, I am replying to your access request under the Municipal Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act. You have requested access to the following information: “Any emails, meeting minutes, or written records concerning the decision to change the colour of the 'ventilation trumpets' on the new north St. Lawrence Market from red to grey, including: 1) who made the decision to change the colour and design feature under what authority, and 2) what was the cost or cost savings from this change.

Records search from January 1, 2021, to February 29, 2024.”

Staff of the Corporate Real Estate Management Division has conducted a search for records responsive to your request. This decision reflects the results of their search.

Responsive Records

Staff of the Corporate Real Estate Management has advised that the requested information is not readily available in either paper or electronic formats. More specifically, they indicated that the decision to change the colour of the "trumpets” was made during the development of construction drawings which spread over 12 months of time, and there is no way to determine when the decision was made. Therefore, staff have to manually search all records, all minutes, all drawings and design specifications - hard copies included - in order to pinpoint when the decision was made. Furthermore, it has been estimated that it will take an average of 30 seconds to review each record (email) to determine if it is responsive to the request. However, the abovementioned program area provided the following information in response to your inquiries.

1. When did this change occur?• The decision to change the colour of the air intake trumpets happened during the development of the contract documents. This spanned a 12-month period whereby many discussions between the City and the Design Architect, RSHP, took place. The decision to change the colour of the trumpets was ultimately made by RSHP.

2. Why was the colour changed?• The decision to change the colour of the air intake trumpets from red to grey occurred during RHSP’s review of external and internal finish colours. They concluded that the colour of the air intake trumpets should be more neutral to align with the more vibrant colours for key architectural components around the trumpets.

3. Were there any costs associated with the change?• No

They also told me that if I wish to proceed and obtain copies of any minutes or emails, the estimated cost will be $1350. Oddly enough I will not proceed further - though I still think the change was a poor idea!!
 
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