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This is terrible, the waterfront is being mangled, just as predicted by various great and good here in Toronto.

While I'm sure the Island Airport is blame, I'm just not sure I can see how...
 
So Corus is given a sweetheart deal, at taxpayer expense, to move from one location in Toronto to another -- and TEDCO gets awarded for this? Presumably for "Best scheme to funnel money from Toronto taxpayers to private businesses".

WTF?
 
From this post:

'New money' stretches the truth
Waterfront investment comes from city

John Foden
National Post

Monday, May 14, 2007

City council claims to have attracted $160-million of new investment to Toronto's waterfront. The fact that the money the city attracted was its own - $132-million from the city and another $15-million from TEDCO, a city- owned agency -- seems not to matter.

Despite being warned Project Symphony would "yield a financial return lower than would be acceptable for a private investor given the risk profile," and although a staff report advises that the project is unlikely to attract any third-party permanent financing, the city executive committee unanimously approved the deal.

So, it's true that a new building will rise on the water, but calling it new investment is a stretching the truth a considerable way. It's like telling your wife you got a raise by withdrawing money from your RRSP.

Cities get rich by attracting new money, not by spending their own. External money sources represent real growth. It reflects a dynamic investment climate.

But the private sector wasn't even asked to bid on this development. The city report suggests that they weren't interested because extensive tax incentives weren't in place. Yet TEDCO's incentive plan won't be ready until the fall.

If true, then it's worse than expected, for spending public money on a commercial real estate project that private capital considers unattractive surely reflects bankrupt economic development planning and ineffective investment strategies.

But all this is not the only trouble here.

The design has been widely panned as pedestrian and unimaginative ( just what the waterfront needs).

The area is bereft of services preferred by workers. Nor is the site served by a subway, which is certain to increase vehicular traffic. Brokers and the office development community consider it to be well away from the downtown core. These conditions will significantly affect occupancy rates and cash flow --and ultimately the city's credit rating.

And not only will the city pay for the building, it is offering the tenants, Corus Entertainment, Inc., preferential tax treatment, foregoing $18-million in taxes over 20 years to relocate an office that already holds an address in the city.

TEDCO argues that this sweetheart deal is necessary in order to retain a high-tech, creative employer, one who wasn't threatening to leave town. They claim that this tax holiday is what private investors need to be attracted to the water.

But surely the plan to recruit investment does not include robbing Peter to pay Paul, moving jobs from Liberty Village (and other areas) to the eastern Bayfront. Although the city does not seem to consider this action counterproductive, replacing the 800-1,000 jobs taken from Liberty Village now becomes a massive assignment, as fewer than 1,000 net new jobs have been created in Toronto since David Miller took office.

Bill
 
The sky is falling! Despite the presence of a big supermarket, an LCBO, restaurants, parks, all kinds of shopping, and bars, Harbourfront and environs is apparently "bereft of services preferred by workers".

People have been working on the waterfront for decades, and the lack of a subway line running south of Union Station hasn't prevented them from doing so. There has been bus and streetcar service for many years.
 
OMG ... tax incentives to keep a company in Toronto ... oh the humanity!!!!

(What the article fails to mention is that Corus was not gonna stay in Liberty Village and the 905 where they were destined to end up (already setup offices in Oakville, I believe) have been offering tax breaks to businesses for years.)
 
OMG ... tax incentives to keep a company in Toronto ... oh the humanity!!!!

(What the article fails to mention is that Corus was not gonna stay in Liberty Village and the 905 where they were destined to end up (already setup offices in Oakville, I believe) have been offering tax breaks to businesses for years.)


They were never intending on moving out of the core. They did a slight restructure last december and moved one of their productions out to Sheridan Campus. This forced many to quit which is what if you ask me was their intention with the move. Have contracted workers quit and take on cheap if not free labour from Sheridan Campus. Each episode of the show was costing Nelvana (Corus) over $500,000 to produce. In the end they were able to drop that to about 1/2 of the original cost. Unless Sheridan Campus has a major expansion I can't see Evil Corus showing anymore interest in setting up away from their talent base. The workforce of the company is primarily young professionals that live downtown. Also most of the companies that pick up production slack for Corus are located in Liberty Village and the downtown core, so to move away from your competition would make little sense.

The saddest thing here is that Corus occupies about 1/3 of all the leasable space in Liberty Village and when they move out it will create a pretty big negative impact on the surrounding area. The good news is that Corus occupies a few blocks of ugly warehouse buildings that could be torn down and redeveloped in such a way that Liberty Village could become another Distillery District.

FYI- Nelvana (Nev co.) Is known as the Dark side in the animation industry, pure corporate, and pure evil.

cs_nelvana.jpg

 
They were never intending on moving out of the core.

It doesn't really matter. Corus put out a RFP in which Tedco answered and I'm far more interested in knowing the agreed upon lease rates than some tax discount of 18 million dollars over 20 years
 
As much as I dislike Corus, you can't blame them for this. The city screwed up here, they need to start acting like a business which is all John M. Cassaday has been doing. Corus was just the wolf that hunted on easy pray.
 
FYI- Nelvana (Nev co.) Is known as the Dark side in the animation industry, pure corporate, and pure evil.

Yeah, but compared to the Hanna-Barbera and Filmation hegemony they displaced, they were pure enlightenment...
 
Very interesting read and it was nice to see the board pushing for further details along the process. The moment the board pressed Tedco to legally force them to build to the exact details they present, you could tell that TEDCO would have got approval and cheapened the building during the construction. Its great to see that they are now Legally responsible for creating a building to its highest standards.
 
The nuts and bolts of the design process laid bare - discussions of details of how effectively the building expresses its purpose, and how well it integrates with adjacent public space.

Oddly though, when discussing the interface with the public realm, the Panel questions the effectiveness of the CBC building which houses the excellent Glenn Gould studio performance space - hardly the "dismal urbanism" they claim, surely? There is no "fish bowl" effect there - and the public loves the Glenn Gould Studio.
 
The CBC building does have an excellent atrium with several public uses, including the CBC museum and the studios.

The TWRC is well within its mandate to require architectual standards that will make the building inviting to the public.

Pier 27 is another situation all together. The architecture is interesting enough, but there's nothing to attract the public.
 

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