SimonP
Active Member
I hear that Adam Vaughan has been out campaigning for Cathy Crowe, which is something of a surprise as despite having similar ideologies Vaughan doesn't get on very well with the Toronto NDP.
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- Thread starter King of Kensington
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Admiral Beez
Superstar
That's my thinking. The Liberals could have the devil himself as a candidate and everyone would still vote for him. I've had all three candidates' representatives knock on my door, each asking for my vote. I have to say I'm likely not going to bother voting at all. I know the cliche is that if you don't vote that your can't complain, but so be it....I'll complain anyway.
LiberalCabbage
New Member
Adam is sincere - when he knocked out Helen Kennedy last time he became persona non grata. I dont think City Council is his highest and best use, but its good for now.
I encourage everyone just to google him and check him out.
He's not going to do anything for anyone who isn't hamed Glen Murray.
I encourage everyone just to google him and check him out.
He's not going to do anything for anyone who isn't hamed Glen Murray.
King of Kensington
Senior Member
Vaughan is a left-leaning independent - like John Sewell. He votes with the NDP councillors and Miller all the time and most of the dissent I've seen from him against the "NDP establishment" has come from the left (i.e. Vaughan and NDP councillor Perks came out against rec center user fees).
Helen Kennedy was a dreadful candidate and I didn't like that Olivia Chow supported her over longtime community activist Tam Goosen - I vote NDP in virtually every election but I supported Vaughan in that race. His campaign workers were mostly NDPers. Liberals like to take credit for his victory - it was more the enemy of my enemy is my friend than from ideological affinities. He wasn't the "thorn in the side of David Miller" that they wanted.
Desmond Cole impressed as well and I'm sure we will see him run again.
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Roy G Biv
Senior Member
Election today. Get out and vote.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Done. Interestingly, the fellow at the polling station took my driver's license and then quizzed me on my address and name, before returning the license. Good to see some attempts at verification.
whatever
Senior Member
With 148 out of 262 polls reporting it's Murray (46%) over Crowe (32%)
Juan_Lennon416
Senior Member
Glen Murray won!
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Admiral Beez
Superstar
It was his to lose.
WillC
New Member
Cathy Crowe did well to almost double the NDP vote from the last election. It has been said that a big help for Murry, was the Rosedale Tory vote. They were so afraid of a socialist win, that about 10% of them voted for the Liberal, and the Tory vote dropped precipitously. The right wing Parties stick together when threatened.
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kettal
Banned
I find that theory hard to believe.
Roy G Biv
Senior Member
It was way too close for comfort for what should have been a complete Liberal slam dunk. Glen's campaign was run out of McGuinty's office, with all of McGuinty's resources. Add in the perfectly timed saving of the Grace Hospital.... McGuinty's aides even made sure Murray wouldn't do the Steve Paiken show. This guy won on entitlement alone.
Congrats to Cathy for making them nervous.
Congrats to Cathy for making them nervous.
King of Kensington
Senior Member
And for saving Grace (no pun intended).
King of Kensington
Senior Member
There may have been strategic "stop Cathy Crowe" voting north of Bloor, though I also think that:
1.) John Tory is far more appealing than Tim Hudak in a riding like TC
2.) Conservatives may have stayed home given that they had no chance
WillC
New Member
Point 1 seems to have a lot of merit. In the same vein, Murray seems like some logical academic, and might be more appealing to the Rosedalians(sp?) than Smitherman was. On point 2, Conservatives never have a chance in central Toronto, general election or by-election. I'll have to wait until someone with lots of time and patience does a poll by poll analysis.