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Rob Ford's Toronto

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YYZ2YHZ said:
Is the fact that McRobb picked up RoFo's Caddy in Toronto new?
I don't recall reading that specific detail before and was under the impression that he must have had it in Muskoka with him given he'd leant it to her.
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I think that is new too. I also recall a mention that McRobb had left Greenestone about a week before the drunk driving incident.

ETA: Was Escalade "detailing" to cover minor accident damage that might be incriminating?
Or give the interior the full-body vacuum to remove accidental substances that might be incriminating?
 
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Congrats to sweetlou for protesting with her shirt on. I also think you dot-connecting Lisi to McRobb via the Escalade makes a heck of a lot of sense.
 
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Interesting article in The Star, at this link. Wonder if it can be confirmed or from another source?

Rob Ford ‘disruptive’ in rehab, sources say

Mayor was so verbally abusive, he was kicked out of group therapy at GreeneStone, where management had concerns he was still using drugs or alcohol.


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Mayor Rob Ford told Newstalk 1010 last week that he “went and got professional, professional help at GreeneStone.†Sources told the Star that Ford's “destructive behaviour†at the drug and alcohol treatment facility in Muskoka resulted in him being kicked out of group therapy.

By: Kevin Donovan Investigations, Jennifer Pagliaro City Hall reporter, Published on Tue Jul 08

Mayor Rob Ford pushed and scuffled with fellow rehab residents and was so verbally abusive that he was kicked out of his group therapy program, according to people who have knowledge of his two month stay at GreeneStone .

These accounts of what one person referred to as “destructive behaviour†stands in stark contrast to Ford’s recent public statements that he had a healthy experience and takes his recovery seriously.

“Ford broke things, got into fights with other residents,†said one source with knowledge of the mayor’s time in rehab at the resort-turned-drug and alcohol rehabilitation facility in Muskoka.

“Ford stopped people from sharing their stories, which is key to a successful rehab experience,†said another source. “Other residents felt intimidated. They felt he was a bully. He was always saying he did not belong there.â€

Management was concerned Ford continued to use drugs or alcohol during his time in rehab. The Star was unable to determine if Ford abused any substances during his two month stint.

GreeneStone’s wooded property has a well known “nature walk†and a concern of staff is that some residents meet their drug dealers or people providing alcohol at the far end of the walk.

Police were called at least once to deal with an incident at GreeneStone during Ford’s time. It’s not known if the police visit was related to Ford. The OPP, which patrols the area, said that any information about police calls to GreeneStone could only be obtained by making a freedom of information request, a process that takes months.

When Ford emerged from rehab he gave select interviews to media. One interview was with Newstalk 1010.

“I went and got professional, professional help at GreeneStone,†Ford told Newstalk 1010 host Jerry Agar last week. “I believe it’s the best one in the world. And they taught me exactly the problem it was with me.â€

For this story, the Star has obtained accounts of Ford’s time in rehab from three people with knowledge of his time there, including a fellow patient, and from others, including a staffer, who provided accounts through an intermediary. Due to concerns over publicly breaching the confidentiality of the treatment facility, the sources asked that their names not be published.

Ford did not respond to a detailed letter requesting comment.

In an interview by email, Shawn Leon, president of GreeneStone Healthcare and a part owner, said he could not answer questions about Ford.

“With regards to Mayor Ford’s conduct and how it affected other residents at GreeneStone we simply cannot comment. We take patient care and confidentiality very seriously, and as such, cannot comment on our patients or their treatment.â€

He would not talk about Ford, but in his email he said the program recognizes that “some individuals are not necessarily group ready.†Individual programs can be set up for those people, Leon said.

Leon explained his company follows the teachings of Harvard professor Dr. Kenneth Minkoff. Leon said GreeneStone has a “holistic and client-centred approach†that focuses on physical, emotional, intellectual, relational and spiritual needs.

Leon, who is also involved in real estate and is a member of the family that started the Leon Furniture chain, was acquitted in 1999 of cocaine trafficking, a case that began in 1991 with a charge in Canada of possessing eight kilograms of cocaine for the purpose of trafficking. He was subsequently charged in the same case by American authorities in 1993 with trafficking five kilograms or more of cocaine. Both cases took years to move through court and Leon was acquitted of all charges by 1999. An American co-accused was convicted and died several years later in prison.

“I was falsely accused,†Leon said in an emailed statement to the Star. Leon said he has no personal history of substance abuse.

GreeneStone, according to people with knowledge of the program, is not as strict as some other rehab facilities, but residents are still encouraged to follow rules, waking early, eating breakfast with the group in a common area, attending one of two small group sessions of 8-10 people, lunch, one-on-one counselling, a large group session, then dinner and an early bed time. Residents (also called patients) live in resort-style cottages on the property.

Ford has said publicly he learned a lot from counsellors and his fellow patients at GreeneStone. In an interview with the Toronto Sun at the start of his time in rehab, Ford also said rehab is like “football camp.â€

Just a few days into his time there, according to sources, addiction counsellors were shaking their heads.

“We are not paid enough to deal with this guy,†one counsellor remarked during a conversation with another counsellor.

“Rob Ford literally had the run of the place. There were no rules around Rob Ford,†said another source.

In the hallways and common areas, Ford argued, pushed and shoved other patients who were angry that Ford had “brought his circus with him,†sources said.

During the morning group sessions, where residents are encouraged to share their deepest secrets, Ford was abusive to other residents, shouting them down, refusing to listen, swearing constantly, sources told the Star.

By the halfway mark of the two months, his small therapy group had had enough and Ford was told to leave the small group. A private counsellor was asked to do one-on-one therapy with Ford.

The Star’s sources have said that Ford did not want to work out with other residents and Leon arranged for a personal coach to train Ford, working on his weight loss. Ford spent many hours in his private cottage watching television. He sometimes ate alone.

One person who was in rehab with Ford, and was kicked out for her behaviour, was LeeAnne McRobb , the woman who was later arrested for drunk driving after being pulled over in Ford’s Escalade.

In an interview, McRobb, 36, said she was kicked out for “bad choices,†including that she loaned her car to “someone†at the rehab facility.

McRobb confirmed that Ford did give her the keys to his Cadillac Escalade after they met in rehab. The mayor also confirmed this last week in an interview with CBC.

“He gave me the permission,†McRobb said, but would not say why the mayor lent her his car or how she got to Toronto to pick up the Escalade.

McRobb told the Star she picked up the Mayor’s black SUV from an auto body shop in Etobicoke. She said it was six days after Ford gave her the keys that she was arrested for impaired driving by the OPP just kilometres from GreeneStone. She is still facing those charges .
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This report might push people to have more sympathy for Ford since his recovery confidentiality was breached.
Not sure if it was a good call by The Star.
 
newearthling said:
Interesting read indeed.
Not to excuse anything he has done, but isn't it unusual for rehab sources to spill the beans? Like unethical unusual? I thought rehab was supposed to be a sacred kind of space, a la Las Vegas, and people didn't say what happened behind closed doors.
I am glad that they did spill, but it just feels strange.
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I think and certainly hope so. Perhaps they felt it was okay because he was doing interviews himself from there? It opens up a possible excuse for them.
 
newearthling said:
This report might push people to have more sympathy for Ford since his recovery confidentiality was breached.
Not sure if it was a good call by The Star.
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But an important thing to note here is that, as everyone had suspected all along, there was no recovery. There wasn't even an attempt at recovery. I'm sure Doug will threaten to sue, but in the end the recovery story was nothing but a lie.
 
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newearthling said:
This report might push people to have more sympathy for Ford since his recovery confidentiality was breached.
Not sure if it was a good call by The Star.
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Unlikely - I think some people might feel uncomfortable, but Greenstone is hardly run of the mill rehab. And what confidentiality? The guy was posting pic of him and telling eveyone it is amazing while getting others into trouble and into the public eye.

His initial rehab isn't a lie, but the grand proclaimations and self-pity at the June 30 conference is a total and utter fraud.

AoD
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
Unlikely - I think some people might feel uncomfortable, but Greenstone is hardly run of the mill rehab. And what confidentiality? The guy was posting pic of him and telling eveyone it is amazing while getting others into trouble and into the public eye.

His initial rehab isn't a lie, but the grand proclaimations and self-pity at the June 30 conference is a total and utter fraud.
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I think it's likely that Greenestone didn't want their reputation tarnished and are running some offence here.

Even the official quote basically corroborates the story: "With regards to Mayor Ford’s conduct and how it affected other residents at GreeneStone we simply cannot comment. "

If they really didn't want to comment they would say "We can't comment on any patient matters," but they specifically acknowledge that he had some kind of "conduct," which is a word that's never used unless someone is being a dick, and then go on to suggest that it had some effect on the other residents.
 
newearthling said:
This report might push people to have more sympathy for Ford since his recovery confidentiality was breached.
Not sure if it was a good call by The Star.
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Except it pretty clearly outlines how his antics interfered with other people's recovery. Hard to find sympathy there.

If you're not ready for rehab, leave. But interfering with other people's recovery is a terribly thing to do.

Kind of ironic: I was treated for 6 months as an inpatient at TGH for an eating disorder. Near the end of my time there, a relative to Leon was admitted to the program. She showed very little interest in actually getting better (I used to hear her throwing up in the shower outside my room). After the staff caught on, she was kicked out. They made it clear to every patient that came in to that program--if you want to get better, we will help you. If you're not ready, we'll send you home because there are people who are ready waiting for your bed.
 
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