Proposed renaming of Dundas Street

[ShonTron]

It was and is still the road to the town of Dundas, just like Kingston Road was the road to Kingston.
In fact, for most, perhaps almost all people, that's the only way they knew of the name. The manufactured evilness of its origin is essentially a retcon to me. And I have enough retcons to deal with in life that are way more meaningful.
Let Dundas Street be what it was and move on.

You’re wrong, but it’s a common misconception. Dundas Street started out as a road between Lake Ontario and the Thames River at present-day Woodstock. It later got extended to London and extended to Toronto. The Town of Dundas takes its name from the road, not the other way around.

The complicated history of Dundas Street

It’s worth wondering why Toronto has a street named after a Scottish politician who had nothing to do with its history.

seanmarshall.ca

 

[Jonny5]

You’re wrong, but it’s a common misconception. Dundas Street started out as a road between Lake Ontario and the Thames River at present-day Woodstock. It later got extended to London and extended to Toronto. The Town of Dundas takes its name from the road, not the other way around.

The complicated history of Dundas Street

It’s worth wondering why Toronto has a street named after a Scottish politician who had nothing to do with its history.

seanmarshall.ca

Good to know, though changes nothing about the retcon.

 

[jje1000]

Sounds like a proper disaster:

Dundas TTC stations may not actually get new names after hasty City process

The biggest municipal news item of this past week has undoubtedly been the City of Toronto's endorsement of a plan to rename Yonge-Dundas Square, a...

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Hopefully the poor procedure in which this was carried out will allow the city to continue pushing off and scaling down the renaming scope.

Ultimately, all that was required from the start was either contextualisation and education, or re-dedication.

 

[DSC]

Yes! I am not particularly upset by the new name but to approve it through an 'urgent' Member's Motion at Council was totally unnecessary. Council approved 15 "urgent' Member's Motions in December and 14 in November. These motions are NOT all 'urgent' but all avoid proper scrutiny. The definition of "urgent' needs to be addressed!

 

[Towered]

The city should do what they're actually experts in - bombastically announce grand plans and visions, then continuously defer the proposals from budget to budget spread over a decade and a half until they imperceptibly die. That way current politicians get to brag that they initiated the idea and set the wheels in motion, and then blame subsequent administrations for not carrying it forward. Everybody wins!

 

[Bonnot]

Dundas Street name change is a hoax on the part of former-Tory's Council minions. They successfully tricked most people into arguing on the subject in its historical context. In reality it was a political vanity project that Toronto's council is famous for over-using - wasting tens of millions of tax payer dollars.

Here's everything you need to destroy each and every Dundas rename plots re- Dundas St, Dundas subways, Dundas Square.....

In Jamaica, there is a national heritage site, next to a junior high school.
It's name - from when it was built over 200 years ago.

FORT DUNDAS
- NAMED AFTER HENRY DUNDAS.
So ask Council and everyone interested or trying to end this farce, why is Council pursuing this money wasting agenda, when Jamaica lists Fort Dundas as one of its national heritage sites....
It's not logical - It's simply a money wasting vanity project.
The question is do YOU make your voice known on the issue directly to the councillors and Mayor involved, or do you let them win their game which is to laugh you off as having no power as constituents. This is NOT a history issue, it's a vanity project.

Use these links to substantiate the evidence.
http://www.jnht.com/site_fort_dundas.php

https://cityseeker.com/kingston/729273-fort-dundas

Dundas St West name change

DUNDAS STREET WEST NAME CHANGE HOAX Is this even a valid issue? NO..... - if one believes Toronto City Hall rationale on the name change issue then shouldn't Henry Dundas be targeted for name...

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[DSC]

Dundas Street name change is a hoax on the part of former-Tory's Council minions. They successfully tricked most people into arguing on the subject in its historical context. In reality it was a political vanity project that Toronto's council is famous for over-using - wasting tens of millions of tax payer dollars.

Here's everything you need to destroy each and every Dundas rename plots re- Dundas St, Dundas subways, Dundas Square.....

In Jamaica, there is a national heritage site, next to a junior high school.
It's name - from when it was built over 200 years ago.

FORT DUNDAS
- NAMED AFTER HENRY DUNDAS.
So ask Council and everyone interested or trying to end this farce, why is Council pursuing this money wasting agenda, when Jamaica lists Fort Dundas as one of its national heritage sites....
It's not logical - It's simply a money wasting vanity project.
The question is do YOU make your voice known on the issue directly to the councillors and Mayor involved, or do you let them win their game which is to laugh you off as having no power as constituents. This is NOT a history issue, it's a vanity project.

Use these links to substantiate the evidence.
http://www.jnht.com/site_fort_dundas.php

https://cityseeker.com/kingston/729273-fort-dundas

Dundas St West name change

DUNDAS STREET WEST NAME CHANGE HOAX Is this even a valid issue? NO..... - if one believes Toronto City Hall rationale on the name change issue then shouldn't Henry Dundas be targeted for name...

toronto2022elect.weebly.com

You are 'pissing into the wind". Council decided NOT to rename Dundas Street. Time to move on.,

 

[Bonnot]

You are 'pissing into the wind". Council decided NOT to rename Dundas Street. Time to move on.,

Are you actually not aware that Toronto Council is transferring the agenda to Dundas Square, and onto the TTC related to DUNDAS and DUNDAS WEST subways? More waste of time and money, particularly for the TTC.
It's like someone enjoying smelling their own farts by blissfully letting Council carry on the charade.

 

[JasonParis]

Dundas West station needs renaming and has long been in the cards. The cost at Dundas itself is being borne by TMU.

 

[T3G]

I don't agree that Dundas West needs renaming. And if it does, there is no obvious name for it that wouldn't cause confusion: "Roncesvalles", for the neighbourhood, could cause confusion when someone expects to find Roncesvalles Avenue, which is almost half a kilometre to the south, and starts panicking; "West Bend" (vague - up until this discussion I have never heard of such a place, and Keele is also situated in the area that Google Maps shows as West Bend), "High Park-Swansea", or "High Park North" (shared name with High Park station) are all equally unhelpful. At this point, the most sensical name for the station would be "Edna", but for the fact that is a trivial side street and most people will not have heard of it.

I say leave the name as it is. People have gotten used to it, and renaming it will cause confusion, too.

 

[JasonParis]

Once integrated with GO/UPX Bloor, a unified station name will almost certainly come forward. I suppose it could still be Dundas West, but highly unlikely with Metrolinx's naming convention (which they admittedly sometimes break). It's also where Dundas begins to run north of Bloor causing even more confusion in people's minds, especially with two other stations along Dundas being parallel not perpendicular to Bloor St. No station's name is perfect and rarely completely aligns with its surroundings, but this seems like a very logical place to spend a bit of money and have both the Bloor and Dundas names removed.

 

[adma]

You could go back to the future w/"Vincent". Or be perverse w/"Crossways".

 

[JasonParis]

Crossways is nice sounding and suggests a place to get to many other places, which is true.

 

[Lennox970]

Suggestion: don't rename things, it just encourages the worst elements in our society. Want to introduce a new name? Fine, fine something brand new to label, a street, or some other.

 

[Towered]

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