Pickering Airport (Transport Canada/GTAA, Proposed)

[muller877]

This has already been covered.

A significant chunk of air freight (possibly even the majority now) is carried in belly cargo of passenger aircraft. You cannot separate passenger and cargo anymore. At best, you could convince a handful of shippers like Fedex and UPS to move. But they use belly cargo sometimes too. They wouldn't be too happy about it.

This move would pretty much go against the current policies of trying to turn TPIA into a megahub.

...and with the increased number of passengers per plane there is plenty of cargo room at Pearson for the foreseeable future. The biggest constraint that I expect in the next Airport Plan is the passenger capacity (even with a full build out of T1) then highways/transit (it may be first for political reasons but really is number 2) and then runway space. I would expect that the revised plan will require a rebuild of T3 (or merging it with T1) before runway capacity is fully utilized.

 

[rbt]

...and with the increased number of passengers per plane there is plenty of cargo room at Pearson for the foreseeable future.

One of the motivations for charging for checked luggage was to make more space for paying cargo; so bigger aircraft for passengers does in fact increase the amount of cargo those same aircraft can carry on the same trip.

 

[SaugeenJunction]

Some thoughts on the Picketing Airport from the "International Airport Review":
https://www.internationalairportreview.com/news/26435/pickering-pearson-toronto/
Does Toronto need another airport? Phil Fine asks Fred Lazar
The pro argument

Pickering airport? Time to hit reset
The against argument

 

[Woodbridge_Heights]

^^^ They both seem to be in the against camp.

 

[kEiThZ]

The both seem ignorant to the actual plans. Pickering will be a GA airport for a very, very long time. Not a commercial airpot. Let alone a mini-Pearson.

 

[rbt]

This is what Pickering Airport is for:

https://canadianaviationnews.wordpr...-to-be-required-for-bizav-at-toronto-pearson/

These types of restrictions will become more and more challenging as traffic at Pearson continues to grow. Right now, if you have your own large jet (like Google's, or AT&T's new fleet with full passenger load) which require a larger runway or larger facilities, you cannot visit Toronto with less than 48 hours notice using your own aircraft.

 

[jje1000]

This is what Pickering Airport is for:

https://canadianaviationnews.wordpr...-to-be-required-for-bizav-at-toronto-pearson/

These types of restrictions will become more and more challenging as traffic at Pearson continues to grow. Right now, if you have your own large jet (like Google's, or AT&T's new fleet with full passenger load) which require a larger runway or larger facilities, you cannot visit Toronto with less than 48 hours notice using your own aircraft.

Would definitely love a secondary airport (perhaps to pick up overflow/budget flights + private flights), but I feel that the general sentiment would be against funding an airport for 'rich people jets'.

 

[rbt]

... but I feel that the general sentiment would be against funding an airport for 'rich people jets'.

Reality is that every time someone says "we need more jobs now" this kind of infrastructure is at the fore-front to meeting that demand. Folks overseeing large volumes of money are reluctant to invest in places they cannot comfortably oversee without massive incentives.

If you don't mind waiting for jobs, we can brew our own entrepreneurs but that's not a quick process.

 

[urbanfan89]

How about opening CFB Trenton to low cost/charter flights and private jets? There are plenty of examples of military bases used for civilian flights. It's 90 minutes away from the entire Durham region. Especially during rush hour this is more convenient than Pearson.

 

[DonValleyRainbow]

How about opening CFB Trenton to low cost/charter flights and private jets? There are plenty of examples of military bases used for civilian flights. It's 90 minutes away from the entire Durham region. Especially during rush hour this is more convenient than Pearson.

Can you provide any examples in Canada of an active CFB being used as such?

They also already have one in Oshawa.

 

[narduch]

Can you provide any examples in Canada of an active CFB being used as such?

They also already have one in Oshawa.

Bagotville?

 

[ShonTron]

Bagotville?

Bagotville, Quebec and Comox, BC. Technically, North Bay as well, but there isn't much in the way of RCAF activity there anymore.

 

[jcam]

Can you provide any examples in Canada of an active CFB being used as such?

They also already have one in Oshawa.

It's not Canada, but Honolulu airport shares its runway with the Hickam Air Force base as far as I know.

 

[micheal_can]

It's not Canada, but Honolulu airport shares its runway with the Hickam Air Force base as far as I know.

As someone who flew out of there on a military flight, I can verify this as true.

 

[TOareaFan]

Charters can use Downsview....not sure how often it actually happens...but it has happened.