Mayor John Tory's Toronto | Page 259

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    Doesn't pass the "Rob Ford" test to me. Imagine if Rob Ford (or an unreasonable facsimile there of) was mayor, would you want his or her executive committee meeting in secret?
     
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    You mean that they didn't?
     
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    This MAY be a sign that the repair of utility cuts could improve? See: https://wx.toronto.ca/inter/pmmd/calls.nsf/0/67B3F3761CBF99FA852580A5005C39DC?OpenDocument

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    The purpose of this RFP is to select a qualified Vendor to carry out field inspections on various utility cut permits throughout the City of Toronto on behalf of the city's Transportation Services Division. The Vendor will verify if any work has been done under the utility cut permit, determine whether the cut has been repaired, and evaluate whether any further type of repair is required. The Vendor will mark the area of repair, calculate the quantity of the materials needed to make the repair, price the repair, and update a database. The Vendor will be responsible for supplying all necessary materials and equipment to complete the required information in the City supplied database described in Appendix F. This information includes the x-y coordinates for all permits and cuts. An image of the database can be viewed in Appendix F. The detailed work functions and technical specifications of the required information are described in "Section 3.0 - Scope of Work" and "Appendix F - Project Reference Material".

    Pages 5 and 6 have some info on how the utility cut permit system works, or does not work.
     
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    The article in question, see link, includes this:

    The problem is each new mayor, since Miller, had changed (or cancelled) the plans of the previous mayor for their own "brilliant" plan, drawn on their paper (or cloth) napkin. If we had stuck with Miller's Transit City (and Transit City Bus, see link), instead of budget cuts after budget cuts, we'll have some parts in operation already.
     
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    The problem is each new mayor, since HALL (ROWLANDS?), had changed (or cancelled) the plans of the previous mayor for their own "brilliant" plan, drawn on their paper (or cloth) napkin.

    If we had stuck with TTC's SRT extension & Eglinton Subway, instead of flipping and flopping, we'll have some parts in operation already.
     
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    Except your Eglinton subway was at one point meant to be a BRT; and SRT was meant to be an LRT using streetcars - so you're basically cherry picking examples. And odd to blame Hall or Rowlands (neither of which presided over the megacity) when it was more often than anything a Metro level of decision. I mean, do you really want to tell me that Eggleton didn't change any plans? Or Godfrey? Or Lastman?

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    BurkOak is a broken record spieling on a near daily basis about how great Ford's transit plan was.
     
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    I said since Hall (meaning Lastman and Miller are just as guilty as Ford).

    I don't recall how involved the Mayor was when Eglinton BRT was changed to a subway, or was it 100% Bob Rae's idea. I would say that Sheppard subway is more in keeping with TTC planning than Eglinton subway though.
     
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    There are enough guilt to go around - some more than others - but above all else it's the unwillingness to pay for anything that is the problem, not the fact that we have multiple plans. One begat the other - you had the cart before the horse. For example, if you had completed the full Network 2011, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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