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John Barber: NDP serves only to give victories to Tories

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NDP serves only to give victories to Tories


JOHN BARBER

The Globe and Mail

September 10, 2008
Now is the time for all progressive men and women to bury the New Democratic Party. The effort is overdue, postponed by sentiment and stasis, but party leader Jack Layton's latest move calls the question.

Is it any wonder that Mr. Layton and Conservative Leader Stephen Harper joined together to exclude Green Party Leader Elizabeth May from next month's televised debate, offering the same reason (claiming she is a Liberal) and backing it with the same puerile threat?

The only difference between those two is that Mr. Layton's threat to withdraw was a weak bluff. The man is in no position to give up his privilege, and the debate would work just fine without him. Maybe better, considering that his main function at such events as currently constituted is to elect Conservatives.

NDP perversity revealed itself nakedly in the last election, which brought an enormous tranche of Tories to power as a result of ruinous left-wing vote splits. People wonder why Ontarians, after rejecting the Mike Harris legacy so vehemently, brought half his cabinet back to life in the Harper government. Just look at the numbers.

Health Minister Tony Clement won Parry Sound-Muskoka by fewer than 30 votes - 18,513 versus Liberal Andy Mitchell's 18,485. But what put him in power were the 5,472 sheep who wasted their votes on a no-hope NDP candidate.

Will Ontarians continue to elect a finance minister, Jim Flaherty, who treats them with undisguised contempt? That's Mr. Layton's call: As long as his latest no-hope candidate in Whitby-Oshawa can rustle up a few thousand votes, Mr. Flaherty will likely squeak into power once again.

Let's not forget Environment Minister John Baird in Ottawa West-Nepean, another Common Sense holdover whose political fate likewise hangs by an unaccountably resilient thread of NDP futility.

No fewer than 20 of the 40 Conservative MPs elected in Ontario in 2006 owed their victories to the same arithmetic, winning with bare pluralities in ridings dominated by progressive voters - mostly Liberals.

NDP perversity is grounded in a founding mythology predicting the Liberal Party would wither away as Canadian politics polarized on ideological lines. More than 40 years later, with the NDP stuck on the fringe, resorting to desperate measures to repress upstarts while viable parties crowd the centre, the true believers cling to the delusion. While they struggle to elect their own members, they hand riding after riding to the Conservatives.

Tellingly, it was Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion's inspired non-aggression agreement with Ms. May that most provoked NDP diehards. By agreeing not to run a Liberal candidate against the Green Leader in Central Nova, Mr. Dion created new hope for his tattered big tent - welcoming fellow travellers without requiring them to vote Liberal. With her participation, Ms. May proved her worth as a welcome new face with fresh ideas.

Both figures know that the future of progressive politics lies in similar non-partisan alignments. Mr. Harper knows that his future lies in preventing them. Mr. Layton, meanwhile, has shown that his party has no place in that future.

Ms. May embraced the deal because she is focused on social change and has no ambition to play a Ralph Nader role in Canadian politics. For that alone she deserves the gratitude of every Canadian. Now she has exposed the bankruptcy of the old-line socialists - another distinguished service to the fractured body politic.

Go Green!
 
If the Greens are Liberals, why's Jack so concerned about them?
 
Interesting piece, ironically this article somewhat makes me supportive of MMP voting given the circumstances.
 
Preferential balloting is an obvious solution to these vote-splitting concerns. It should have been implemented long ago. Doing so would not change the structure of parliament (as MMP would) and should be implemented as soon as possible, following a proper debate in the House.
 
I'm glad that it's John Barber who wrote the article and not a prominent Liberal making these arguments.

The idea that the Liberals shouldn't have to fight like other parties, but instead other parties should just get out of the way is the purest expression of the arrogance that saw the party booted from power. I saw the 2006 election as a sign that the Canadian populace was telling the Libs that they had lost their way, they had stopped standing for anything at all, and that they needed some time off to rediscover what it is that they are about. Barber's article is a nasty reminder of those days.

In the 2006 election, the NDP got more votes in BC than the Liberals. This is not the NDP's 'fault'!

The idea that the Green Party is "focused on social change and has no ambition" to split votes is absurd. If they were Canada's third largest nation-wide party John Barber would be writing the exact same article, calling on the Greens to stop splitting the vote and get out of the way of the Green Shiftâ„¢.
 
Well, I've always had issues with John Barber, and I think he's rather strident in this article. You're absolutely right about B.C. I'd definitely be voting NDP in several B.C. ridings where they're the only serious alternative to the Tories.
 
Great maybe we should go to a 2 party system like our Southern cousins....that's real democracy for ya....
 
It's good news that the Greens are in the debate now....changes the dynamic of the race...and ensures that we keep our democracy vibrant in Canada. I will be looking forward to watching May in the debate. I have seen her speak in Ottawa and she's great....
 
I hope the Liberals will accept weaker majorities by embracing electoral reform toward preferential balloting at some point in the future. It would essentially ensure that the Conservatives would never form government again unless they became the party of the centre at some point (ie, became the Liberals, as they are attempting to do at the moment). Liberals in Ontario would have been wise to do the same.

It would also give the Greens a better chance to get elected, as people could vote for them without fretting about 'wasting' their vote and instead voting strategically.
 
I hope the Liberals will accept weaker majorities by embracing electoral reform toward preferential balloting at some point in the future. It would essentially ensure that the Conservatives would never form government again unless they became the party of the centre at some point (ie, became the Liberals, as they are attempting to do at the moment). Liberals in Ontario would have been wise to do the same.

It would also give the Greens a better chance to get elected, as people could vote for them without fretting about 'wasting' their vote and instead voting strategically.

Yeah, that's why I voted against MMP in the referendum. Preferential balloting is the way to go!
 
Preferential ballot aka alternative vote:

Each voter ranks candidates in order of preference on their ballot, 1 being most preferred, 2 next most preferred, etc. Ballots are counted by examining first-choice preferences, and if someone has 50%+1, they are elected. If not, then the candidate with the least number of 1st choice votes (and often less than a certain % of total, like 2 or 5%) are eliminated. For votes cast for eliminated candidates, their next most preferred candidate is considered. This continues until one candidate has 50%+1 of the votes.

Keith:

I considered doing that, but decided MMP was better than what we had, and voting down the proposal would move electoral reform off the agenda for a good long time. I voted in favour because it was better than the alternative: FPTP, and the risk of another blue Tory majority in Ontario, which I would strongly oppose.
 
It's good news that the Greens are in the debate now....changes the dynamic of the race...and ensures that we keep our democracy vibrant in Canada. I will be looking forward to watching May in the debate. I have seen her speak in Ottawa and she's great....

Is this the same Elizabeth May who compared those who didn't agree with her environmental policies to Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler?
 

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