andrewpmk
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The Yonge subway at Finch is too busy for that to work.
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How do city planners exactly determine which route or road is better for RT?
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Johnny Au
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Regardless, urban planners work for politicians. It is an unfortunate fact of life.
TheTigerMaster
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Politicians control the money. That's the problem. Things like Translink, Metrolinx, Transit for London (etc...) are helpful, but at the end of the day it's the politicians that control the money.
denfromoakvillemilton
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Then less find ways to separate politicians for the money.
Johnny Au
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Yep. Politicians provide urban planners with money. Urban planners often end up drafting plans that favour whichever politician that pays them the most. Paul Bedford however refuses money from Rob Ford.
M II A II R II K
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The Eglinton subway would have worked great as a branch of the Spadina Line, especially if it went to the airport.
TFC
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Planners' pay stays consistent, regardless of who's in power (unless Hudak becomes mayor and all public sector wages get cut in half).
howl
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Planners won't recommend something that is absurd, but if there are two or more reasonable routes there may be some gamesmanship. What sometimes happens is a study is done and if the politician don't like it they bury it and commission another study. Eventually they get the study that gives them the option they want. That's why the Sheppard subway was built instead if the Eglinton subway. That's why there is a subway going to Scarborough Town Centre rather than an LRT. They were both options that were within the realm of possibility and as such the politicians got to choose which one to make taxpayers pay for.
BurlOak
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That what I had. North of Wilson, one branch goes east on Sheppard with a station at Wilson Heights which shares the bus yard with Downsview station. Thanks to the empty fields of Downsview Park it can be built mostly with cut and cover.
There would also be a Sheppard line connected to the north part of the Spadina line.
From the south, train would 1) go to. VCC, 2) short turn at Downsview, 3) go to DM, 4) short turn at Downsview - each train coming at about 2 minutes.
Sheppard would have train 1) go to VCC and 2) go south towards Union - each train coming at about 4 minutes.
Vaughan would have train 1) go to DM and 2) go south towards Union - each train coming at about 4 minutes.
smallspy
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That's mostly not true.
A chief planner will work for a municipality for several electoral cycles, and will have to answer to the long-term Master Plan that has been laid out for that municipality. While politicians may request changes within the framework of that plan, by-and-large the planners are able to do their work without political interference.
Which is the way it should be.
So, you want to combine one extremely long line and one short line into some sort of 3-headed abomination?
Do you have any clue how hard it would be to integrate the headways on such a beast? And how impractical and expensive it would be to run?
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
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