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Have Streetcars Adequately Demonstrated Their Development-Generation Potential?

Problem with your argument is, Edmonton Transit System actually has an overall higher transit ridership per capita than Calgary Transit.

What? You mean the population of an area might play a factor in total ridership figures?? Who knew. :) Proof is in the pudding. Smaller LRT network is better than a big LRT network. If Calgary's network was smaller they could have 5 to 10 more people per capita using their system. :)
 
What? You mean the population of an area might play a factor in total ridership figures?? Who knew. :) Proof is in the pudding. Smaller LRT network is better than a big LRT network. If Calgary's network was smaller they could have 5 to 10 more people per capita using their system. :)

Just tellin' it like it is, yo. Edmonton has a better transit ridership than Calgary.
 
True it does on a per-capita basis but that is somewhat misleading.

Calgary transit serves huge suburban areas while Edmonton transit serves just the city and not the meandering suburbs of Strathcona County or St.Albert.

We are talking about streetcars/Lrt in which case the CTrain has been far, far more successful that Edmonton's LRT which still gets decent ridership of 95,000 passengers per day.
 
True it does on a per-capita basis but that is somewhat misleading.

Calgary transit serves huge suburban areas while Edmonton transit serves just the city and not the meandering suburbs of Strathcona County or St.Albert.

We are talking about streetcars/Lrt in which case the CTrain has been far, far more successful that Edmonton's LRT which still gets decent ridership of 95,000 passengers per day.

If you consider the entire urban area, Edmonton and Calgary are around the same, ridership-wise. It's not very convincing case either way. Is C-Train having higher ridership than Edmonton mean much if both still have equal ridership?
 
There was a British study that indicates that their light rail systems had a negligible effect on car use, and mainly attracted people off of busses. Another study cites cases of even if you take a car off the road, another car takes it's place.

The overall takeaway is that light rail has to be built in conjunction with congestion pricing and dense development to effectively reduce car traffic.
 
Another study cites cases of even if you take a car off the road, another car takes it's place.

That's going to be the case for Toronto too.

Toronto's economy is hamstrung by congestion. Toronto isn't trying to get people off the road (nearly impossible), it's trying to allow for economic growth again.

Build GO to handle 1 million riders per day and you won't see empty highways, you'll see dozens of new office buildings downtown.
 
That's going to be the case for Toronto too.

Toronto's economy is hamstrung by congestion. Toronto isn't trying to get people off the road (nearly impossible), it's trying to allow for economic growth again.

Build GO to handle 1 million riders per day and you won't see empty highways, you'll see dozens of new office buildings downtown.

Once someone is set in their way of doing something, it would be hard to change them. Better to go after the new user who is trying to make a decision on the means of transporting themselves, before they become set.
 
An article on
Transit + Technology: Revitalizing Public Transportation for Smarter Communities

from this link:

Neil Roberts shares details of Melbourne's Yarra Trams, which has exceeded its service delivery and punctuality goals by the use of intelligent transit technology like sensors, the tramTRACKER app, and mobile work stations for employees.


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The evolution of technology has dramatically changed almost every facet of our lives, from the way we shop and communicate to how we travel and run our cities. The smallest startups to the largest governments are transforming the way we communicate information, track data and monitor our operations to not only drive efficiency, but also to provide better services and products.

Technology can do the same for transportation: shaping the quality of how we commute and move around our communities to boost passenger usability and confidence. By enabling customers to travel around Melbourne quickly, safely and efficiently, we can build a more sustainable, better operating community.

Yarra Trams, the operating name for KDR Victoria (a partnership between public transit company Keolis and Australia’s oldest rail company, Downer), has been serving the citizens of Melbourne for over 100 years. Continuing our commitment to a more sustainable Melbourne, we’ve been working with IBM to use technology to improve day-to-day tram operations and overall passenger experience.

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As the world’s largest operating tram network, we are responsible for 492 trams, operating on 29 different routes on 250 kilometers of double track. Here are a few areas where we are using technology to evolve our century-old business into a new global model of smarter transportation:

Accurate Scheduling

Much of our tram network shares the same streets and roadways with Melbourne’s motor vehicles and pedestrians. In fact, 80 percent of our tracks share road space with other vehicles. With a population of more than four million people, shared roadways come with a host of potential disruptions: from traffic to construction to detours caused by special events and weather.

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Despite the fact that these situations can form quickly and are outside of our direct control, passengers expect our trams to be on time. To make sure trams are in the right place at the right moment, we’ve equipped them with data-collecting sensors. From the oldest tram–clocking in at over 70 years old–to the newest, each tram feeds real-time information about its location to the Yarra Trams Operations Center. From this center, we have an accurate view of what exactly is happening on all of our routes and with each of our trams, allowing us to rearrange schedules, dispatch additional trams and keep customers informed of potential delays and the best alternate routes via tramTRACKER®—our real-time data analytics and mobile app allowing us to communicate directly with passengers via smartphone, our website, display screens at major stops and screens at shopping centres and sporting complexes.

Sensors collect data from some of our 91,000 pieces of infrastructure: trams, inlaid tracks, overhead power wires, power substations and passenger platforms. Using data analytics, employees in different parts of the business, such as infrastructure (track and overhead power wires) and rolling stock (trams), examine each significant data point, searching for patterns and unusual activity.

Take hugely complex and high profile events, such as the Australian Open tennis tournament held here in Melbourne. For the duration of the competition, we use the information streaming in from around our network to determine where heavy passenger traffic will occur and allocate our trams accordingly, as well as alerting passengers about service changes via tramTRACKER®.

Though our network has generated this data for over a century, the fact that we can now capture it–and listen to it–is enormously valuable. In October 2013, our service delivery was at 99.23 percent and tram punctuality was at 84.00 percent, exceeding our respective targets of 98 and 77 percent, respectively. Punctuality had its best September since KDR Victoria took over the franchise in 2009, following from our best ever July and August results.

Sensors, analytics and asset management help keep our trams on schedule, meaning not only that our passengers feel more confident in choosing to travel by tram, but they also arrive to work on time, increasing productivity in Melbourne itself.

Predictive Maintenance

Keeping a 100-year-old system running smoothly is not an easy task. Our trams’ vast range in ages means each tram has various maintenance needs, with overlapping and conflicting schedules. Though this means careful planning is required to meet the challenging maintenance schedule, it doesn’t change the fact that we need to know where, when, why and if a problem has occurred or will occur. Most importantly, if there is a problem, we need to be able to respond rapidly.

A stalled tram is quite different from a broken down car; though other motorists can simply swerve around a stopped vehicle, we have to stay on the tracks, and there are sometimes nine routes sharing a single stretch of track. Not to mention the tremendous downtime and money it can cost to fix a major malfunction, which are made more frustrating when easily avoided by earlier detection.

We’re better preventing such system delays through sensors and asset management software, analyzing equipment data to figure out where and when maintenance is required. Centralizing and aggregating this information allows us to analyze patterns, identify potential issues, alert appropriate personnel and dispatch a work crew to make the necessary repair before the disruption happens.

To put it more tangibly, let’s look at how we respond to a potential wheel wear.

An automated wheel measurement machine detects the condition of tram wheels as the tram drives over a sensor embedded next to the tracks. The rolling stock maintenance team uses the data to determine which wheels need attention and then create a work order. Because the maintenance crew receives the work order on a mobile device, they also log information about the repair on this same device, enabling comparisons to previous repair logs and allowing for scheduled preventative maintenance.

The ability to predict repairs, versus simply reacting to them, means a fleet can run at its intended capacity, is repaired and serviced during off-peak hours and has a minimal chance of breakdowns when a city’s workforce needs to commute.

As with any transit system, these preventative measures don’t mean that external forces won’t cause problems. Melbourne has an annual rainfall of more than 24 inches, and it’s very common for streets and tram tracks to flood. Thanks to our data analysis, we can now identify which areas are particularly prone to flooding, and our crews can now take extra precautions when the forecast calls for rain.

What if tracks flood anyway? Our sensors and Operations Center quickly alert crews via mobile, who in turn can make quick decisions and respond to the flood and work to avoid service delays.

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Enabling a Mobile Workforce

What’s equally as important to optimal maintenance and reduced downtime is real-time information from each of our workers in the field.

However, communicating with each worker over more than 250 kilometers of double track is no easy task. To make this easier, we’ve equipped each worker with a mobile device to remotely access work orders and receive up-to-date information on track and tram functionality. Through the devices, workers on any part of our network can access crucial data on equipment status, failure locations, traffic delays and bad weather—as well as alerting other employees of these types of situations in their areas.

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Once one project is finished, engineers can log onto the system via their mobile device and document how long the repair took, as well as sharing additional mobile work orders to reduce response time to the next project. This is a far superior process to using printed documents from the office, which then need to be updated by returning to the office after the job is complete.

Customer Engagement

In addition to improving service reliability, analytics, mobile and asset management technologies are helping us update passengers when scheduling issues occur. Our mobile app, tramTRACKER®, analyzes real-time information collected from equipment data points to identify tram arrival times and display this information to passengers. It receives more than one million hits per day from passengers wanting to know when their tram is coming.

With the app, a passenger can pull up arrival times of the next three trams that will pass through their nearest stop, helping to avoid missing the next tram or finish their coffee knowing when the next tram is coming. The effect of disruptions is managed via passenger information officers based at the Operations Centre, who can broadcast specific information to tramTRACKER. That information equips passengers with the knowledge to make informed, quick decisions to get to work or home on schedule.

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What’s Next?

Incorporating technology into our infrastructure has successfully evolved our model of smarter transportation, but the implementation of sensors, analytics and asset management technology is just the start. With the recent introduction of our new E-Class trams, we are introducing additional sensors and using WiFi to download maintenance and passenger counting data and uploading onboard passenger information at tram depots, taking passenger communication, efficiency, predictive maintenance and punctuality to even greater levels.

Whether it’s mobile apps or the analysis of millions of data points, we are always searching for new and unique ways to provide a more intelligent and efficient tram network for Melbourne. The technology we’ve implemented with the help of IBM is just one step in our journey, and we look forward to exploring new ways to apply technology for generations to come.

Biography

With 25 years of ICT experience, Neil Roberts’ strong program and project management skills have helped to transform vision into reality in business environments including engineering, logistics, banking/finance and risk management.

Neil successfully managed the complex transition of all ICT systems to the new franchise and has applied his experience to significantly improve the ICT systems that maintain, operate and enhance the passenger experience and the operational effectiveness of Melbourne's iconic tram network.

Neil Roberts is the Director of ICT at Yarra Trams
 
There was a British study that indicates that their light rail systems had a negligible effect on car use, and mainly attracted people off of busses. Another study cites cases of even if you take a car off the road, another car takes it's place.

The overall takeaway is that light rail has to be built in conjunction with congestion pricing and dense development to effectively reduce car traffic.


This occurs as cars are always seen as the more attractive service.

Several things occur when a new LRT line is constructed (or any piece of transportation infrastructure for that matter)

1. A certain amount of people switch to that new service
2. a certain amount of people who previously drove later in the day now drive at peak hours as it is faster
3. people who once avoided making a trip altogether now make that trip as it is easier
4. people who previously took transit from another part of the system now drive as it is easier

overall, you end up with just as bad vehicle congestion. Unless you build enough roads for 100% of trips to be made by car (which is essentially impossible) you will have traffic congestion, that simple. all transit does is allow more people to take a trip when they want (I.E. right at 5 pm) and help deal with growth. At best new infrastructure can prevent things from getting worse.

If / when the provinces planned transportation infrastructure is built out don't expect it to suddenly solve gridlock and to be able to fly across the 401 at 8am. Traffic will be just as bad. However, transit will be more desirable and will be a better option, allowing for more people to make their commutes in the same amount of time as before the new infrastructure was built. More people will be able to commute when they want, within a certain time-frame. This is where you get your increased economic activity, as less people will be modifying their preferred behaviour and it will be easier to get around during rush hour, even if it is still just as bad as today if you drive.
 
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Hard to believe, but TTC is actually implementing a bunch of this, as well as other GTA transit authorities. YRT, for instance, gets real-time data for every single bus, and has Automatic Passenger Counters on about 70% of buses for ridership analysis, which all gets uploaded over wifi at the bus depot. I believe TTC is slowly implementing more of this technology, but they already get real-time bus information, as proof by the nextBus systems and data we all see on a daily basis.

Overall the information in that article isn't really anything new, but still nice to see how it's implemented elsewhere. The one thing that stood out was the maintenance integration with technology and sensors. Not sure if any of that has implemented in the GTA yet.
 
No matter what type of system you built, 25% of drivers will never get out of their cars regardless how expensive it is to drive.

The goal today is to offer new people another option in dealing with today gridlock. Doing this needs to happen since there will be no room on the road by 2030-40 for the extra 500,000 to 1m cars that will be showing up for the new 3m residents that will be moving here.

LRT's have proven they are better in the long run over BRT or very low ridership Metro's over the last 15 years.

Since I spent 5 years in Calgary, it is very urban sprawl like Mississauga, but more so due to the valley's that cut the city up into section as well the hills. Edmonton is very close to Calgary like this.

My house face the north over looking my 4 lane BLVD, then drop into a huge valley with the highway and river there as well the Provincial park. Along the lines of the DVP.

Having push the smart card since 2002 that would provide real time data as what was taking place in the system, understanding how people travel as to when, where and how many doing so, as today planing of service sucks. The Prestro doesn't have the back end to do this that it take more than 24hrs to do fare statements.

One doesn't or should be require to pull out a phone to see when the next vehicle is coming as it should be display at major of stops. This has been around close to 2 decades or so, yet only a few systems have this today. It would make riders life at lot easier to have that info as it will allow them to go and get a drink or food or do some shopping based on the amount of time their vehicle will show up. It may force the rider to change travel plans.

From what I can recall from my 2012 Europe trip, nearly ever stop show what vehicle was going to show up, when, as well the one behind it. If there was a delay, it would say so as well the problem and very rare I ran into this.

If transit planners had this real time info, they could change schedules and routes a lot faster than it is today, if it does get done yearly in the first place as well a true cost ratio for that route. It would also point when and were bottle necks take place and someone to look at those spots to find out the cause of them.

I am not an ant or an animal that must be put underground so I can't see daylight, what taking place on the surface and missing out from shopping local so car people can gum up the roads that will move less people as well block other drivers.
 
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LRT's have proven they are better in the long run over BRT or very low ridership Metro's over the last 15 years.

Since I spent 5 years in Calgary, it is very urban sprawl like Mississauga, but more so due to the valley's that cut the city up into section as well the hills. Edmonton is very close to Calgary like this.

Calgary has LRT, but it is "very urban sprawl like Mississauga". What does that say about LRT?
 
I don't think that a transportation network attract people to a particular city in any great numbers. People migrate to a new city for job opportunities or social reasons, not because they like to drive or take trains. However, the transportation networks play a role in where those people choose to live within the city. If the city is automobile-oriented then the city needs to be highly dispersed. If the city is transit-oriented it needs to be highly concentrated and walkable.

Projects like the Hurontario/Main Street LRT will allow Mississauga and Brampton to start building larger, more concentrated, developments along the corridor. The flip side of that is when it comes online there will likely be less low-density development pressure in neighbouring Caledon and Milton. If people have a choice of living near the LRT in Brampton or commuting by car from Caledon, some people will choose Brampton. Right now they don't have that choice. When the Eglinton Crosstown LRT comes online there will likely be a some shift of development to the Eglinton corridor. If the Crosstown wasn't being built that development would go elsewhere in the GTA.

So to say transit "generates" new development is probably incorrect. It just redirects development within the community.

Transit may or may not have a role in attracting new businesses to a city.
 
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