HousingNowTO
Senior Member
Here is the CityNews story on their project - https://toronto.citynews.ca/video/2...sent-affordable-housing-plan-for-parking-lot/
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15 Denison Ave (n of Queen W, potential affordable housing)
- Thread starter AlbertC
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Johnny Au
Senior Member
It would be great if the "You miss 100 percent of the shotd [sic] u [sic] don't make" mural were preserved.
HousingNowTO
Senior Member
Not sure if that WALL can be retained as part of the City plan to drop the two buildings on Queen Street for the new Park, but it is certainly early enough in the process to ask...
AlbertC
Superstar
Brief mention in this article, in relation to the 101 Spadina project:
renx.ca
Devron will go it alone to develop Toronto’s 101 Spadina
Devron Developments has received zoning approval from the City of Toronto to move forward with a 39-storey 101 Spadina condominium development at the southeast corner of Spadina Avenue and Adelaide Street West.
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TorontoChap
New Member
I understand that 15 Denison is likely to get approved for 15 floors, maybe more because of the location. Has anyone heard the latest details and where the developers are with zoning?
Northern Light
Superstar
There is no application in the AIC for 15 Denison currently, so far as I can discern.
I didn't even know they'd picked the developer, though that process certainly should have happened, it was supposed to happen as an RFP in conjuction with MBDC - https://www.mbdc.ca/
Perhaps @HousingNowTO may have some info to share.
HousingNowTO
Senior Member
Have not seen or heard anything official about the Denison Green-P surface parking-lot. It would be an obvious site for the City to move forward with under Mayor Chow’s public builder program, but no news that we have heard.
AlbertC
Superstar
Soil sampling machinery on site today
Towered
Senior Member
Are we finally going to get that park here??
Northern Light
Superstar
There is no plan for a park on the parking lot, the plan is for Housing.
The plan is for the current/former retail buildings on Queen to be the park.
Yes, that's the reverse of the way :I'd do it too.
Towered
Senior Member
Wasn't the original plan for the parking lot to become a park, along with the former KFC property that was demolished at the corner?
Northern Light
Superstar
In another era, the Green P lot was periodically discussed as a potential park. I don't recall if that was ever formally a plan.
But when the City found money to buy the KFC and the adjacent property, the decision was made to have the park front Queen; the councillor of the day, Cressy supported housing here.
I agree .w/housing, just don't agree w/the site assembly and massing.
junctionist
Senior Member
It would good if they could finesse the design to preserve sight lines to the church. It's a picturesque heritage building and a local landmark.
HousingNowTO
Senior Member
Here's some additional materials about that GREEN-P site on Denison from our TMU SURP Student team's work back in 2021 -
HISTORY
CONTEXT
MASSING ALTERNATIVES (Mass-Timber / Rapid Modular)
HISTORY
CONTEXT
MASSING ALTERNATIVES (Mass-Timber / Rapid Modular)
Northern Light
Superstar
All the concepts above are sub-optimal.
Four storeys is silly short.
A set back is needed, on the north side in particular, and and to some degree on the east/west frontages, but there is no need for a badly designed wedding cake.
One setback, then straight up. I haven't done an analysis to derive an optimal height........... but I would set the range at 8--12 storeys.
Build 3 storeys up, one set back and then uniform floor plates.
Volunteers and planners suffering from the same perspective problems from opposite sides.
Its about the outcome from the perspective of those walking by.
They don't care about the math, or the concept, they care about the feel (wind, temperature, vibe) and the look.
That's all.
Cheaper to build w/fewer setbacks, but zero setbacks results in poor conditions at street level and strong push back.
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