Well, there goes the (St. Lawrence) neighbourhood. (Okay, exaggerating a bit, but this is not good precedent).
Proving yet again that we forgot how to build dense, yet low to mid rise, mixed income neighbourhoods, and that the city doesn't know what it wants.
well this is just an 'application' and does not mean that they will get the height they are after!
Its an interesting concept but don't you think the St Lawrence area is a tad overrated? - block long drab buildings with pockets of say rich and poor mostly divided by a linear parkProving yet again that we forgot how to build dense, yet low to mid rise, mixed income neighbourhoods, and that the city doesn't know what it wants.
Here is an overview of land availability.
Red - 18 Lower Jarvis
Yellow- Available Parking lots
Green - Municiple Works lot
And a quick mock up, with park thrown in though it would be a great space for a park.
Thanks, Andrew, very illuminating.
But criminy, where did the base image for your mockup come from? Is that the Windows Live map view?
So I went for a bike ride this afternoon and went down to the site. The notice doesn't sound so bad and from what it neighbors I think it can only help this stretch of Jarvis. I really don't think the 147m / 482ft should be what we're worried about here, only the street level.
Across from one of the worst buildings on Lower Jarvis.
Another lot to bite the dust.
What it will block on the west.
And it's not as though it'll be the only tall building to loom over the Esplanade.
Wow. That is an uninspiring look at St.Lawrence area architecture. The TO Fine Foods building is bad but only slight worse than that two tone brick building with arches in the last pic. It is like someone drew an ugly building on a page and then tried to spruce it up with arches all over the place.
that "worst building" isn't too bad--compared to the other crap in those photos. Just rework the base and it could pass for some Dutch-designed loft building.
I wonder if Context Real Estate Holdings is the company that split from Context the Spire builder? I believe those guys are focusing on small scale projects while their ex-business partner (these guys?) wanted to go highrise. If Aa is involved it's bound to be approved and probably the best building in the neighbourhood.
I would call you a cynic but I'm even more jaded. I've seen these new towers and, drama in the sky aside, they offer f__k-all in terms of street-level improvements. Normally, they have a huge porte cochere and laneway for cars to turn around in and a gaping garage door entranceway to the underground parking. At the expense of sounding like a NIMBY I'm going to say that our streetscapes are increasingly turning into industrial-sized garages thanks to the condo boom. Just look at Bay street.
i agree with that hipster (how hip are you really?) duck
all those parking garages suck and are no different than those suburban homes with huge garages out front. Anti social and anti urban is what they are. Do buildings in manhattan have huge underground garages eating away at prime retail space?
Developers and city hall: stop pandering to suburbanites who want to still keep their silly cars. If they want cars--why not build huge multistory's (with artistic flair) at key transit nodes or along the gardiner where they park n ride?
^If that duck wasn't a CGI rendered in MS Paint, he'd be managing the American Apparel store on Queen and DJing a New Wave night at The Boat.
The stupid thing about those parking garages is that many of them are, at most, half full because many condo owners don't own cars at all. I think there is a silly rule that there must be a parking space for every unit. I wonder how much quicker condos could be built, how much cheaper they would be to build and how much condo fees could be reduced if we weren't forced to provide parking.
While some developments manage to incorporate loading/parking facilities well and others do terribly - it is something that has to be worked into virtually all developments regardless of whether they are located in Milton or Manhattan.
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