JWBF
Senior Member
Ok, this is simple, lets here everone's opinions on the Amalgamation, for good, for bad, for ever etched in the annals of UT for everyone to see.
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The issue is the dynamics of the suburban vs. Urban politics. Until they can be worked out, this marriage will never work out. And I'm not entirely convinced that they can be worked out.Thank you JWBF.
This could be a useful forum.
I am opposed to de-amalgamation just because the original premise was not carried out as it should have been. Instead of fewer employees and departments we have more of both, the fault of the mechanics, not the design. I feel that we are too far down the road for a U-turn and should make a greater effort to make it work.
Agreed. Though I can't imagine why one would expect a smaller bureaucracy ... your well past the change in workforce where economy of scale would apply. Whoever thought that must have been smoking crack. Was Doug Ford Senior part of that decision? He was one of the few PC (Progressive Cracksmoker) MPPs in Toronto back then.Thank you JWBF.
This could be a useful forum.
I am opposed to de-amalgamation just because the original premise was not carried out as it should have been. Instead of fewer employees and departments we have more of both, the fault of the mechanics, not the design. I feel that we are too far down the road for a U-turn and should make a greater effort to make it work.
Was Doug Ford Senior part of that decision? He was one of the few PC (Progressive Cracksmoker) MPPs in Toronto back then.
Metropolitan Toronto was created in 1954 using London, England as its model. London was, and is still, a two-tier government, made up of 32 boroughs and city.
What should have happened in 1998, should have been the addition of Peel, York, and Durham regions into Metropolitan Toronto, but leaving the existing cities, towns, boroughs, etc. to handle local matters. If there had to be some amalgamation, then the inner suburbs of the former City of York and the Borough of East York into the former City of Toronto, but no more than that.
I agree.. and this was what i was articulating in the Rob Ford threat. Amalgamation wasn't necessarily a mistake; the devil was in the failure to expand some sort of quasi regional Metro level government that encapsulated Peel, York, Durham etc... The creation of the Greater Toronto Services Board was meant to be that level of government, however, without any taxation powers it was basically still born and hence died a miserable death.
Unfortunately the creation of such a quasi regional government would dwarf the provincial government and sadly, while it may be the right thing, I don't see it ever happening.
No premier would have the appetite for it, as it would be incredibly unpopular in the 905 area code.
Where ever Ontario wants it.What would the capital of Ontario be?