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City Square Parkside Condos (Hamilton, Dundurn Edge, 4-9s, Lintack)

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http://www.thistlesquarecondos.com/

Site plan
http://www.dundurnedge.ca/pdfs/Thistle/A0 SITE PLAN Thistle.pdf

Drawings
http://www.dundurnedge.ca/thistle_drawings.html

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http://www.lintack.com/portfolio.php?cat=27&project=801

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http://www.thespec.com/article/408245

Developer eyes Thistle Club site
Proposal for green building being studied

ERIC MCGUINNESS
The Hamilton Spectator

(Jul 24, 2008)
The company that opened the energy-efficient West Village Condos student residence on Main Street West last fall now proposes to build 148 condominium apartments in three buildings on the vacant site of the historic Thistle Club in Hamilton's Durand neighbourhood.

Carlo Di Gioacchino, a partner in Dundurn Property Management, says both projects are designed to achieve LEED platinum status, the highest rating for green buildings. The nine-storey west Hamilton tower is expected to receive its LEED certification soon.

The Thistle Club, which began as a curling club and later added racquet courts, closed in 2002, a year shy of its 150th birthday. The building at 85 Robinson St., including a rink built in 1889, closed in 2002 and was demolished in 2004.

Developer Vince Molinaro first proposed to replace it with 37 condominium townhouses with underground parking, then with 44 townhouses with surface parking. Lack of buyer interest scuttled both plans and the property was sold.

Di Gioacchino says his company found that "people in that area don't want to have stairs anymore. We expect buyers will come from the neighbourhood and they prefer apartments."

Dundurn Property Management, working with Armstrong Hunter & Associates, has applied to the city for zoning amendments to allow a four-storey, 24-unit building on Park Street South and two 62-unit, nine-storey buildings, one fronting on Robinson, the other on Charlton Avenue West. There would be 175 underground parking spaces, with 26 on the surface for visitors.

Di Gioacchino says the buildings on Robinson and Park would have four storeys closest to the street, stepping up to the rear. Each would have two, two-storey units on top with open terraces. The other apartments would have recessed balconies.

"They're designed to fit with the surrounding community, with lots of green space around the building. There will be hidden solar arrays to supply domestic hot water, probably white roofs to reflect the sun, lots of recycled materials, non-toxic paints and glues and a rainwater collection system."

Prices and completion date haven't been announced. The company held a neighbourhood meeting, and city planners are now circulating notices seeking public comment on the plans before submitting a report to city council. The application seeks changes in the maximum height allowed, minimum yard setbacks and parking-location rules.

For more information, contact Cam Thomas in the planning and economic development department at cthomas@hamilton.ca or 905-546-2424, ext. 4229.

emcguinness@thespec.com

905-526-4650
 
I drove by this site a few times months back and noticed several sign changes.
I'm not a big fan of the area. We almost bought the old scott park school 5 minutes from the site.

Downtown Hamilton is in need of new projects. Especially, to change the grime along king st e.
 
I drove by this site a few times months back and noticed several sign changes.
I'm not a big fan of the area. We almost bought the old scott park school 5 minutes from the site.

Downtown Hamilton is in need of new projects. Especially, to change the grime along king st e.

I'm not sure you're talking about the same neighbourhood?
Scott Park is in the East End, this neighborhood (Durand) is Downtown Hamilton and is the most affluent of downtown neighborhoods (see MLS).

King St East by Scott Park is in some serious need of a retail/pedestrian boost; However KingSt East downtown has seen a resurgence in the last decade, with even
more on the way with LRT.
 
Big plans for old Thistle Club site

Where curling rocks were thrown and racquetballs swatted, New Horizon wants to build homes.

The Hamilton-based development company led by Jeff Paikin plans to build three, nine-storey buildings on the site of the former Hamilton Thistle Club at Robinson and Park streets site in the historic Durand neighbourhood. New Horizon Homes has partnered with Dundurn Edge Developments, another Hamilton builder on the project, which will be known as City Square Parkside Condominium.

Paikin said the group is “hugely excited†about the possibilities. He believes there is big pent-up demand for new-build condos in Hamilton’s downtown. When his parents wanted to downsize more than 10 years ago, there were only a couple of options in the core.

Little has changed, says Paikin, who grew up on the west Mountain.

While Paikin admires conversions of historic buildings such as schools and warehouses into living space, he says some buyers are wary because those condos aren’t covered by new home warranties.

“It’s not to say they’re not great housing choices and lots of times they are less expensive. But a new building is new everything. It’s a matter of offering the choice. Right now, it’s either buy in an old building or don’t get a condo.â€

Paikin believes his project will appeal to everyone from first-time homebuyers to retirees to investment buyers and he expects strong demand from doctors, nurses, lawyers and other professionals working in the neighbourhood. He also thinks it will draw a significant number of buyers already living in neighbouring homes or apartment buildings.

“I think people will find with the interest rates that they can own for less than they are paying in rent.â€

Dundurn Edge bought the property from the Molinaro Group — a Hamilton-based developer behind a series of highrise condos in Burlington. Molinaro couldn’t get the neighbourhood on board with its vision for the Thistle Club site, says Paikin.

He was thrilled when Dundurn Edge’s Rob Manherz asked him to partner in a development.

“The Thistle Club is in a fantastic location. I took squash lessons there and played tennis with my mom there.â€

Paikin says the site is a close walk to everything from transit to hospitals and Hess Village to James Street. There is a park next door and the condos will feature both escarpment and waterfront views. New Horizon’s vision for the property is an Art Deco- inspired design, that evokes Hamilton’s past and will blend in well with the Durand community.

The 66 units in the $18-million first building will go on sale May 28. Prices start at $150,000 for a 474-square-foot unit and go up to about $800,000 for custom-built, 2,000-square-foot penthouse suites on the top two floors.

The project has been a number of years in the making but all the site plan approvals and building permits are in place. The hope is to break ground in September.

The developers have been advertising for more than a month and when they released an artist’s rendering of the building’s exterior, “we got crushed,†said Paikin.

“Nowhere, including Burlington where we sold 126 units in four days, have we got the kind of Internet response like this before.â€

Paikin says international investors are eager to park their money in residential developments in Ontario because of the stability of the province’s housing market during the recent recession that devastated the U.S. market. The booming GTA condo market has now migrated west, he says.

“The world is finding out about southern Ontario. It’s Hamilton’s time because we are the affordable option in the GTA.â€

New Horizon is behind a proposed condo development at Dundurn and Aberdeen, along with condo apartments, townhouses and single-family homes across Hamilton and Burlington. Dundurn Edge completed the West Village Suites student housing complex on Main Street West.

The Thistle Club, which began as a curling club and later added racquet courts, closed in 2002, a year shy of its 150th birthday. The building at 85 Robinson St., including an ice rink built in 1889, was demolished in 2004.

http://www.thespec.com/news/business/article/535472--big-plans-for-old-thistle-club-site
 

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