DaninToronto
Active Member
Yes. I mean the general area, mainly to the immediate south.
Markham World on Yonge | ?m | 31s | Liberty Development | Kirkor Architects
Chuck
Senior Member
Today those towers would be completely out of place, but none the less a massive improvement over the dilapidated strip mall that currently sits on that property. The location is right, but the timing isn't for this development. It would be better to see a gradual increase in scale until finally projects like this start to appear.
For starters, the car dealerships should be closed and replaced with large townhouse communities. Then, the smaller strip malls should be replaced with midrise apartments and condos. Finally, flagship properties like this one, the Centrepoint Mall parking lot, and the portions of the car dealerships fronting Yonge should get large 30+ story towers.
Yonge between Finch and 7 was built mainly in the 50s and 60s. There are ample strip malls, car dealerships, and parking lots along that entire stretch to turn Yonge into a nicely developed avenue. Regardless of the local development right now, the subway would be heavily used because Yonge is the primary, if not only, true transit corridor in any direction north of Sheppard.
For starters, the car dealerships should be closed and replaced with large townhouse communities. Then, the smaller strip malls should be replaced with midrise apartments and condos. Finally, flagship properties like this one, the Centrepoint Mall parking lot, and the portions of the car dealerships fronting Yonge should get large 30+ story towers.
Yonge between Finch and 7 was built mainly in the 50s and 60s. There are ample strip malls, car dealerships, and parking lots along that entire stretch to turn Yonge into a nicely developed avenue. Regardless of the local development right now, the subway would be heavily used because Yonge is the primary, if not only, true transit corridor in any direction north of Sheppard.
Those car dealerships at Doncaster were originally located at Yonge and Finch. One where the North American Life Centre is today and another at the south west corner of Yonge and Kempford where a condo exists today. Both moved in the early 80's. I wonder where they could move these days?
Another interesting tidbit is the location of the dealerships at Doncaster used to be a Eaton's bargain store. Got my first baseball glove there.
Another interesting tidbit is the location of the dealerships at Doncaster used to be a Eaton's bargain store. Got my first baseball glove there.
scarberiankhatru
Senior Member
The North American Life Centre is one of the greatest misappropriations of pink granite in history.
Has there been any movement on the big proposal at Yonge & Langstaff between the 407 and the cemetery?
Has there been any movement on the big proposal at Yonge & Langstaff between the 407 and the cemetery?
Mike in TO
Senior Member
7161 & 7171 Yonge (York Region) - Four Towers
There might already be a thread for this...
A Proposal for residential, retail and office space at 7161 & 7171 Yonge Street (Yonge and Meadowview). Proposal includes four residential towers 24, 26, 32 and 36 floors as well as a hotel component in one tower and a 10 floor office tower. The podiums will all contain retail space. Total size is 105,838 sqm of residential and 49,071 sqm of commercial space.
There might already be a thread for this...
A Proposal for residential, retail and office space at 7161 & 7171 Yonge Street (Yonge and Meadowview). Proposal includes four residential towers 24, 26, 32 and 36 floors as well as a hotel component in one tower and a 10 floor office tower. The podiums will all contain retail space. Total size is 105,838 sqm of residential and 49,071 sqm of commercial space.
3Dementia
Senior Member
Is this at the Manitoba border?
It's across the street from Vaughan, so that's worse.
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Edward
Senior Member
This is good in-fill. One more strip mall bites the dust.
junctionist
Senior Member
To put things into perspective, it's actually about 17 kilometres to Dundas Square, or 8 kilometres to York University.
shortbranch
New Member
The Wendy's has now closed and the old Hy and Zels is having a closing sale. Does anyone know when this development is set to begin?
Solaris
Senior Member
This proposal is appealed to the OMB, second pre-hearing conference set for September 29, 2008.
Markham planning staff report (January 2008)
Report attachements including Concept Site Plan
Markham planning staff report (January 2008)
Report attachements including Concept Site Plan
smuncky
Senior Member
this is the site.
Solaris
Senior Member
Development Approved in Principal
woohoo new heights achieved in Markham ... 25s + ... and at 3.85 FSI density !
Markham Planning Staff Recommendation Report (http://www.markham.ca/markham/ccbs/indexfile/Agendas/2008/Development%20Services/pl081007/1691126%20Ontario%20Inc..htm)
Report figures (http://www.markham.ca/markham/ccbs/indexfile/Agendas/2008/Development%20Services/pl081007/1691126%20Ontario%20Ltd%20Attachments.pdf)
in essence the endorsed development is quite similar to the original concept but with less site coverage (smaller podiums) and more green space ... still 4 residential towers + 1 office/hotel building + retail
this report recommends following changes be made to the current plan:
Currently Endorsed Concept - subject to refinement
vs Original Concept Site Plan
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MODs ... although heights stats will be further revised, can this thread be revised in the interim to:
"7161 & 7171 Yonge St @ Doncaster (LEED Silver, Yonge & Steeles, Liberty Dev Co, 34 + 32 + 27 + 22 + 21s)"
woohoo new heights achieved in Markham ... 25s + ... and at 3.85 FSI density !
Markham Planning Staff Recommendation Report (http://www.markham.ca/markham/ccbs/indexfile/Agendas/2008/Development%20Services/pl081007/1691126%20Ontario%20Inc..htm)
Report figures (http://www.markham.ca/markham/ccbs/indexfile/Agendas/2008/Development%20Services/pl081007/1691126%20Ontario%20Ltd%20Attachments.pdf)
in essence the endorsed development is quite similar to the original concept but with less site coverage (smaller podiums) and more green space ... still 4 residential towers + 1 office/hotel building + retail
this report recommends following changes be made to the current plan:
- Applying the 1:2 angular plane (with the additional restriction of 100 metre building heights on the Yonge Street frontage) to the April 2008 Development Concept Plan (see Figure 4), results in the following height ranges for the proposed buildings:
- The office/hotel tower, and residential towers A1 and A2 all of which are located along the Yonge Street frontage of the site, fall within the area of the 100 metre (~30 storeys) cap set out in the Yonge Steeles Corridor Study. Staff are of the opinion that this height restriction should be retained on the site as this property is located at one of the highest elevations along Yonge Street in the Thornhill Community, which will contribute to the visibility of high-rise development on the property;
- Applying the 1:2 angular plane to the remainder of the property results in the following height ranges:
- Maximum building heights for residential tower B1 (located mid-way between Yonge Street and the eastern property line) of 23 storeys at the south east corner and 30 storeys at the north west corner;
- Maximum building height for residential tower B2 (located near the eastern boundary of the site) of 14 storeys at the south east corner and 21 storeys at the north west corner.
- Maximum building heights for residential tower B1 (located mid-way between Yonge Street and the eastern property line) of 23 storeys at the south east corner and 30 storeys at the north west corner;
- The office/hotel tower, and residential towers A1 and A2 all of which are located along the Yonge Street frontage of the site, fall within the area of the 100 metre (~30 storeys) cap set out in the Yonge Steeles Corridor Study. Staff are of the opinion that this height restriction should be retained on the site as this property is located at one of the highest elevations along Yonge Street in the Thornhill Community, which will contribute to the visibility of high-rise development on the property;
Currently Endorsed Concept - subject to refinement
vs Original Concept Site Plan
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MODs ... although heights stats will be further revised, can this thread be revised in the interim to:
"7161 & 7171 Yonge St @ Doncaster (LEED Silver, Yonge & Steeles, Liberty Dev Co, 34 + 32 + 27 + 22 + 21s)"
smuncky
Senior Member
this is good. i definitely like that most of the surface parking will be replaced by the urban park. however, the towers will cast a shadow on it most of the day i'm guessing. also, i'm assuming that the parking for the retail will now be underground, correct?
Solaris
Senior Member
yup ... according to the staff report: "Accommodating virtually all of the parking in an underground parking garage, with only a minimal amount of at-grade parking in the interior of the site"