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TTC: Yonge North Subway Extension (Finch-Richmond Hill) (Funded/Planned)

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Can someone please explain why it is still worth building this subway if it will not have Cummer and Royal Orchard Stations? It seems to me like it will only make life more difficult for those living or working on Yonge Street. How is it worth it?
People living near Royal Orchard don't want it nor does the lack of existing and potential density support it. Cummer will likely be added or a high density project will contribute towards costs is my prediction.
 

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Can someone please explain why it is still worth building this subway if it will not have Cummer and Royal Orchard Stations? It seems to me like it will only make life more difficult for those living or working on Yonge Street. How is it worth it?

The number of people who benefit from the subway extension will be many times greater than the number of people inconvenienced by the loss of VIVA stations at Royal Orchard and Centre, or by the loss of the #53 / #60 buses between Steeles and Finch.

It would be great to add those stations back to the project scope, especially Cummer / Drewry. But their absence doesn't invalidate the whole project.
 

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The number of people who benefit from the subway extension will be many times greater than the number of people inconvenienced by the loss of VIVA stations at Royal Orchard and Centre, or by the loss of the #53 / #60 buses between Steeles and Finch.

It would be great to add those stations back to the project scope, especially Cummer / Drewry. But their absence doesn't invalidate the whole project.
So there won't be any VIVA services from Richmond Hill centre to finch? What about the 99 will that still run? Seeing that some stops are not within walking distance.
 

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So there won't be any VIVA services from Richmond Hill centre to finch? What about the 99 will that still run? Seeing that some stops are not within walking distance.
The 99 will of course still run, and older documents suggest 10 minute service 🤣
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So there won't be any VIVA services from Richmond Hill centre to finch? What about the 99 will that still run? Seeing that some stops are not within walking distance.

I think it makes sense to run the #99 on the improved frequency; such as every 10 min as the doc cited by ARG1 states.

VIVA, I assume no. The bulk of riders coming from the north will be transferring to subway at RHC. Residents living in the vicinity of the Centre and Royal Orchard stations will not fill the express bus, and Clark will have its own subway station. Thus, not enough riders for the southern VIVA. Unless that section of VIVA gets a lot more local stops, but then it just turns into #99.
 

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No VIVA south of RHC makes sense but it's a dumb move having all those other routes end at Clark instead of Steeles. So a good portion of York residents will then lose easier access to Yonge/Steeles and connecting TTC/YRT routes and will be forced to take the subway at Clark or get on an extra bus to go one station south.

Kinda similar to how it's played out at York U and the subway there.
 

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No VIVA south of RHC makes sense but it's a dumb move having all those other routes end at Clark instead of Steeles. So a good portion of York residents will then lose easier access to Yonge/Steeles and connecting TTC/YRT routes and will be forced to take the subway at Clark or get on an extra bus to go one station south.

Kinda similar to how it's played out at York U and the subway there.
It depends, the whole extension would require a rethink of the entire YRT network down there, so I doubt that we won't have some sort of bus service along Hilda there. I doubt this list is final and is more of an idea list.
 

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P3 Market Update will be held today at 12:00 p.m. with Minister of Infrastructure. The Yonge North Extension will likely be a topic of discussion. Link below if you are interested in attending.

... And Metrolinx is doing another open house, no doubt filled with all sorts of info about why Royal Orchard residents should chill, coming up on the 20th...

 

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YNSE mentioned in the IO CEO's letter and the latest market update.

 

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YNSE mentioned in the IO CEO's letter and the latest market update.


IO P3 Market Update October 2021 - YNSE delayed according to it

 

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I think you missed the important part which isn't that it's delayed, per se, but that "Contract packaging options (including delivery models and timelines) continue to be explored, with a view to considering how a) Tunnels and b) Stations, Rail and Systems might be optimally delivered."
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Can't recall if this meeting has been posted here. Also, I believe the technical name is "Option 3 Refined".

 

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The city of Markham has released an interim report on Land Use and Built Form Study on the Yonge Street corrider surrounding each station.
Here's the documents if you wish to read further into it; lots of great details and has a detailed vision of how Markham wants the neighbourhoods to look like including examples to other developments in Toronto. https://pub-markham.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=43413
https://pub-markham.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=43414

Some key information and images;

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The city of Markham has released an interim report on Land Use and Built Form Study on the Yonge Street corrider surrounding each station.
Here's the documents if you wish to read further into it; lots of great details and has a detailed vision of how Markham wants the neighbourhoods to look like including examples to other developments in Toronto. https://pub-markham.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=43413
https://pub-markham.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=43414

Some key information and images;

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These are some very impressive plans.
 

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