TTC Turning to Green Power

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This is a good idea. Calgary's been getting all of the electricity for its light rail from wind power for years.



TTC turning to green power

JEFF GRAY

December 4, 2007

The TTC hopes to buy 25 per cent of its electricity from green sources by 2012, according to its environmental plan, to be debated at a meeting tomorrow.

The Toronto Transit Commission, whose $45-million power bill is second only to the water department's, says it plans to work with Toronto Hydro to get a quarter of its power from green sources, such as wind or solar, by 2012. The added cost could be up to $2.6-million, the TTC says.

The overall plan, drawn up as the transit commission's contribution to Mayor David Miller's greenhouse-gas reduction targets, contains no overall cost estimate, but will run in the millions.

It also calls for green retrofits at TTC stations and for a policy of "green procurement" that would scrutinize all TTC purchases for environmental problems. The TTC is already committed to buying, with federal and provincial funding, hybrid diesel-electric buses, which cost $750,000, compared to a $500,000 conventional bus.


"Ultimately we hope to set an example for other large companies in the city, and also to begin to reduce the environmental footprint of operations," TTC chairman Adam Giambrone told reporters yesterday.

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TTC rockets toward green

Wide-ranging initiatives could make it the most energy-efficient system on continent by 2020
Dec 04, 2007 04:30 AM
Tess Kalinowski
Transportation Reporter

The TTC wants to become the greener way.

The commission's proposed environmental plan would make the TTC the greenest transit system in North America by 2020.

Moving toward greener buildings, fuel and vehicles will come at a price, but the investment will pay off in a cleaner city and lower operating costs, said TTC chair Adam Giambrone yesterday.

"It's something Torontonians expect. They've been asking for the city to meet commitments to reduce our environmental footprint. This plan does that."

Parts of the TTC proposal are more ambitious than the city's own environmental plan.

"The city is thinking about green procurement – we are doing green procurement. We are matching them on alternative energy sources, we are meeting their green fleet plan," Giambrone said.

Although it's being outdone in some areas – Calgary leads on using green energy for its light rail system, and New York has a solar-powered station at Coney Island – the TTC's green plan is ambitious, according to Giambrone.

"We checked with other transit systems. We will exceed by far any other standard in North America. There is nobody that is doing all these things," he said.

The full cost of initiatives such as green roofs and more energy-efficient buildings won't be known until designs are done. In June, the commission approved a green roof (covered in plants for cooling) for the Victoria Park station redevelopment, and a cool roof (covered with a coating to reflect sunlight) as part of the Wilson car house addition.

"We build buildings for 50 to 100 years. If it's going to cost 4 to 5 per cent more at the outset, it's an investment," Giambrone said.

Some of the plan is already in place.

The bus fleet, for example, already includes 150 hybrid buses operating on biodiesel. Hybrid buses cost about $750,000 compared with $500,000 for a diesel bus, but federal grants cover the difference.

As the city's second-biggest energy consumer, the TTC's move toward using 25 per cent green energy by 2012 will add between $1.6 million and $2.6 million a year to its $45 million annual hydro bill.

That money would be factored in to the commission's capital plans.

Some initiatives, such as the procurement plan, are a matter of policy, but they're more difficult than they sound.

"(The green procurement plan) requires us to look at each and every product we buy, figure out how to source it from an environmentally sustainable and friendly perspective, also figure out how you're going to get rid of and recycle this product at the end of its lifespan," Giambrone said.

"Torontonians should be proud of the TTC," said Franz Hartmann, executive director of the Toronto Environmental Alliance.

But the province's failure to increase the TTC's operating subsidy and Ottawa's refusal to commit to Toronto transit projects is disappointing, he said.

"The federal and provincial government are doing nothing to help green Toronto," Hartmann said.

TTC commissioners are expected to approve the plan at a meeting on Thursday.

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It's good to see TTC go green, but I'm not a fan of the green roof idea simply due to cost. I'd rather see better transit service, which also helps clean the air by taking cars off the streets, than a green roof.

If the TTC wants to put in some greenery, perhaps it should consider putting some plants in some subway stations. For example Yorkdale station could be converted into a 'greenhouse' in the summer.

 

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Is the TTC going back to Trams pulled by Horses? Now that's a green idea....

 

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The Toronto Transit Commission, whose $45-million power bill is second only to the water department's, says it plans to work with Toronto Hydro to get a quarter of its power from green sources, such as wind or solar, by 2012. The added cost could be up to $2.6-million, the TTC says.

The overall plan, drawn up as the transit commission's contribution to Mayor David Miller's greenhouse-gas reduction targets, contains no overall cost estimate, but will run in the millions.

It'll cost millions extra! Fantastic! Where will the extra dollars come from?

Sorry, but this is idiotic. By being mass transit, can't the TTC already be described as a "green" initiative? And why emphasize such sources as wind and solar? They are virtually non-existent as sources for electricity of any meaningful scale. What happened to hydro? Not green enough anymore?


That 25% portion is going to be expensive.