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Why are we judging how well an elevated line would do based off infrastructure from the early 20th century? We have so many cities like Vancouver, Paris, Tokyo, and others that have built modern elevated metro systems that do not suffer from the noisiness or lack of speed that NYC and Chicago do, and we should be looking at those systems, not NYC which suffers from being extremely behind on maintenance and vital infrastructure upkeep work.
Indeed. If we are using LRT and forcing a transfer, why not just BRT?
BRT after Victoria park would likely be sufficient for the next 10-20 years
The flexibility of BRT would make sense given the number of corridors in Scarborough that you would eventually want some kind of BRT infrastructure on (some just queue jump lanes, some full median BRT):
The advantage of BRT being that would can actually afford it!
And Scarborough would be better served for it having multiple corridors of RT vs only one if it was s.ubway
Yet they handle more of the TTC's overall ridership than the subway. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Not a helpful attitude. I feel like LRT is the ill-fitting mode in the middle. It isn't cheap and it isn't fast. At least buses are cheap and flexible. And real, grade separated rapid transit is actually fast. LRT feels like something where it makes sense in a very narrow range of circumstances.
Maybe that can be managed by starting on the alignments that were never due to get subway/LRT and show what good quality, high service BRT can do. Should make it easier to sell for places like Sheppard. And the idea with Sheppard should be that it is interim solution until subway is extended in some form. Building LRT is saying we're going to permanently have a mediocre solution that will require a transfer.
I don't think we need palatial BRT stations if Line 5 is stuck with glorified bus shelters. Some temperature controlled, fully enclosed shelters should be fine. Similar to what you find at GO stations.
Isn’t three quarters of Toronto third class?Yet they handle more of the TTC's overall ridership than the subway. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They are third class because of stigma, not facts.
7 Design Lessons From the World's Most Gorgeous BRT Stations
Ideas that help distinguish the service from a regular old bus.
Sitting on a bus making stops every 200m and constantly stuck in traffic sucks. An express bus with dedicated lanes and 400-500m stop spacing is similar to an LRT but on tires instead of rails
As someone who rides Viva Blue constantly, its fine. If you have an express bus with tight headways, limited stops, and dedicated lanes, its no worse than an LRT.
