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Should have been a transit city line instead that goes through all of Sheppard.
North York Centre station was a rough-in too, yet Yonge North got its development. Bessarion was supposed to be a rough-in but was seen to have better development potential due to open land.The lack of a Willowdale station really says everything about how serious the city was in densifying Sheppard at the time. In every urban structure and development sense it would have been far more useful than Bessarion.
Because the City was already amalgamated and priorities changed. North York City Centre developed heavily throughout the 90s when it was its own city, got a new subway station, and was seen as likely to continue during Sheppard's planning. Just because construction only really started occurring in 1995 doesn't mean planning for the line didn't go back any farther. The line was envisioned in 1985, back when North York Centre's construction efforts were starting to take off.That isn't true at all.
Downtown growth has outstripped these areas for decades, and by a very wide margin.
Planners already knew this is how things would unfold when Sheppard was selected as the line to build.
The same reason they used to rebuild Yonge north of Sheppard avenue — Because they wanted to. They wanted to build a walkable community and they did. These things aren't that complicated.Why would they be rebuilt? They're not dense, walkable environments. Almost the entire line runs through suburban, single family home neighbourhoods and park land.
Because the City was already amalgamated and priorities changed. North York City Centre developed heavily throughout the 90s when it was its own city, got a new subway station, and was seen as likely to continue during Sheppard's planning. Just because construction only really started occurring in 1995 doesn't mean planning for the line didn't go back any farther. The line was envisioned in 1985, back when North York Centre's construction efforts were starting to take off.
The same reason they used to rebuild Yonge north of Sheppard avenue — Because they wanted to. They wanted to build a walkable community and they did. These things aren't that complicated.
Terminus at Sheppard McCowan is full completion. I feel that this has hamstrung us for too long.The number of condos that've been built aren't anywhere close to providing the kind of density necessary to justify a subway in this corridor. Planners knew that when the line was being built. It's not too surprising.
What is unfortunately surprising is that we're continuing to make the same foolish, politically motivated mst
Would it? What does full completion even mean?
This line isn't on the radar at the moment. There's a promise to build it at some undefined point in the future, but it has no funding.
If we can't move on to other important transit priorities until this is done, then the GTA is in trouble.
I agree. North south transit is key and we just don't have enough of that. I would like to see something done for Markham Road too.Wouldn't the Scarborough debate just move it's goalposts accordingly? There is a lot of Scarborough out there, it's a big place.
Build the Eglinton East extension along with some subways, but I wish we could actually prioritize building a BRT network across Scarborough to actually serve the borough and satisfy transit needs for a generation.
The same reason they used to rebuild Yonge north of Sheppard avenue — Because they wanted to. They wanted to build a walkable community and they did. These things aren't that complicated.
Terminus at Sheppard McCowan is full completion. I feel that this has hamstrung us for too long.
If local residents want to sell their homes to developers at a premium or replace their detached houses with small apartment buildings that they themselves own, how would that be a bad thing? If someone wants to hold onto their detached house, they can do so too. You can't just assume that all residents these neighbourhoods to be 100% detached houses forever. The city could get so much denser, affordable, diverse and walkable if we loosened zoning restrictions in favour of more density in neighbourhoods. Right now, just replacing a detached house with two semi-detached houses is often not possible.
Additional benefit of being able to re-purpose the TRs currently on Line 4 to increase capacity on Line 1 once ATC is implemented without having to do a new procurement, although the schedules probably wouldn't line up to allow for itI've actually become a convert to something similar, although my version exits the Finch West tunnel into the York busway corridor, turns south on Dufferin and runs in a surface ROW on Sheppard as far as room can be found for it before entering the tunnel.