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TTC: Scarborough Subway Extension (formerly LRT replacement) (City of Toronto, Design Phase)

Allandale25

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I read the staff report on the latest on the SSE but I'm still not clear/not remembering. Now that the Province wants it to be 3 stops and given the level of design we heard today at Council, how many more months/years will the Province need to get the three stop SSE version up to either a) the level of one stop version was and/or b) to the point where they can do the RFQ/RFP/make a procurement decision. Would it be at least one year from the RFP launch date to the RFP closing date and then the winner of the RFP picked? Or is it shorted because this isn't DBFOM it's just DB?
 

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What Toronto needs is GO RER ASAP. Transit lines in Montréal are now being prioritised on commercial speeds. This basically rules out any LRT lines for the short/medium term. The REM is an express metro system (which is litterally the name REM - Express Metro Network)
 

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I read the staff report on the latest on the SSE but I'm still not clear/not remembering. Now that the Province wants it to be 3 stops and given the level of design we heard today at Council, how many more months/years will the Province need to get the three stop SSE version up to either a) the level of one stop version was and/or b) to the point where they can do the RFQ/RFP/make a procurement decision. Would it be at least one year from the RFP launch date to the RFP closing date and then the winner of the RFP picked? Or is it shorted because this isn't DBFOM it's just DB?
I believe changing it again is estimated to bring another 2 year delay. So 2027 slips to 2029.

The 1 stop version was almost ready to start construction, I believe the City had planned to start early works in spring 2020.
 

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Wow, good to hear there is progress. I thought EgWest would end up not getting built. It's something.
Eglinton West is the most straight forward route. There are no disputes about station locations, or the paths to take. Only real question is which parts are elevated, which underground, and which cut-and-cover.
SSE (or L2EE) is also quite set, so it also going earlier makes sense. I doubt there is appetite to find a better route - even though there likely is one.
 

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SSE (or L2EE) is also quite set, so it also going earlier makes sense. I doubt there is appetite to find a better route - even though there likely is one.
Didn't the province previously say they were considering alternative alignments and construction methods, including potentially bringing parts of the subway above ground? Is this off the table now?
 

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Didn't the province previously say they were considering alternative alignments and construction methods, including potentially bringing parts of the subway above ground? Is this off the table now?
I was thinking more about horizontal alignment. With change in vertical alignment, there is still no real difference in the people served.
 

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19-177 - TA for Scarborough Subway Extension and Yonge North Subway Extension Projects

DESCRIPTION
Announced by the Government of Ontario in April 2019, the Scarborough Subway
Extension (“SSE”) Project and the Yonge North Subway Extension (“YNSE”)
Project (collectively the “Projects”) are each extension of TTC’s existing lines.
The SSE will replace the existing Scarborough Rapid Transit line and is an
extension of the existing line 2 to Scarborough Centre. The YNSE is an extension
of TTC’s existing line 1 from Finch Station through the York Region (including City
of Markham, the City of Vaughan and the City of Richmond Hill).
 

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"Lawyer. Urbanist. Progressive." I thought the "elites" all lived downtown. Maybe he was confused when he moved back to the 6ix from NYC and didn't get the memo. Forget about the commute and try enjoying life with your fellow progressive neighbours such as OneCity.
 

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The guy acknowledges the subway will save time for future commuters (not to mention the removal of a transfer) and yet throws the usual BS about it being one stop when he most likely knows exactly what is going on.

Seems like a typical Toronto special interest group doing what they usually do.

So very thankful the usual obstructionists are on ignore by those that matter and we can move on towards the subways that should have been built decades ago.



...And worse the delay had little to nothing to do with the RT line. So typical 😒
 
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The guy acknowledges the subway will save time for future commuters (not to mention the removal of a transfer) and yet throws the usual BS about it being one stop when he most likely knows exactly what is going on.

Seems like a typical Toronto special interest group doing what they usually do.

So glad these usual obstructionists are on ignore by those that matter and we can atleast move on towards a subway that should have been built decades ago.




....And worse none of his delay had anything to do with anything to do with the decision on this line. Anything to beat a dead horse.
Like I said... Enjoy your Scarborough neighbours. Such a progressive bunch.
 

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