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TTC/Metrolinx: Scarborough Subway Extension

For those in Scarborough, don't take the single-occupant car. Take public transit, or cycle, or walk. Most traffic congestion is caused by the single-occupant automobile.

From link.

IF, big IF, they actually go through with the measures for the buses...


Depends on the Toronto Transportation Department and their pro-automobile stance they have.
Considering the report was signed off on by the Head of Transportation Services, I would imagine they are supporting the recommendations.
 
The srt was trash anyways. People sat outside in the elements and it broke down all the time. Good riddance as a former Scarborough resident. And will the bus way suck and or work. Who cares we’re finally getting the transit we need.
 
you are in such an obscure minority opinion it's not even funny. We love the SRT, so many of us rely on it for our commutes. Yes it has it's problems but for a lot of us, it is our quickest way of getting to and from the rest of the subway system.
The srt was trash anyways. People sat outside in the elements and it broke down all the time. Good riddance as a former Scarborough resident. And will the bus way suck and or work. Who cares we’re finally getting the transit we need.
 
I reckon the people who have to suffer through its use for the next 10+ years might care a little bit.
When the talks started happening about abandoning the rt conversion to lrt for subway instead the rt was on its last legs. People were warned that the rt was not going to last. But people wanted subways subways subways. So they ignored the warnings and proceeded down this extension path which always was going to lead us here. Ultimately people wanted subways no matter the cost. Here’s the cost, which we all could foresee, now I’m supposed to think people care. The might care but they care about getting a subway more. One way or another. Subways subways subways.
 
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you are in such an obscure minority opinion it's not even funny. We love the SRT, so many of us rely on it for our commutes. Yes it has it's problems but for a lot of us, it is our quickest way of getting to and from the rest of the subway system.
I personally liked the blue wrap on the trains. That was nice. But if the majority of the people in Scarborough loved the rt the way you suggest then a conversion to LRT was the natural choice. Yet every single politician in Scarborough campaigned on a subway because they knew that’s what was going to get the votes.
 
When the talks started happening about abandoning the rt conversion to lrt for subway instead the rt was on its last legs. People were warned that the rt was not going to last. But people wanted subways subways subways. So they ignored the warnings and proceeded down this extension path which always was going to lead us here. Ultimately people wanted subways no matter the cost. Here’s the cost, which we all could foresee, now I’m supposed to think people care. The might care but they care about getting a subway more. One way or another. Subways subways subways.

It sucks how this line was treated for people in Scarborough, but even then if it was converted to LRT there's still going to be many years of disruption given it was planned for the existing right of way (but maybe 2+ years isn't as bad as 7+). The sensible thing would've been to finish the subway before closing the SRT, but in true Toronto fashion we barely even started construction of the subway.
 
When the talks started happening about abandoning the rt conversion to lrt for subway instead the rt was on its last legs. People were warned that the rt was not going to last. But people wanted subways subways subways. So they ignored the warnings and proceeded down this extension path which always was going to lead us here. Ultimately people wanted subways no matter the cost. Here’s the cost, which we all could foresee, now I’m supposed to think people care. The might care but they care about getting a subway more. One way or another. Subways subways subways.
Taking a cattle car shuttle bus is punishment enough. Private lanes or no, those buses are going to be rammed; and let's be honest with ourselves, the Nova buses of today do not provide anywhere close to as comfortable a ride as the Orions of yesteryear.

Plus, not all of us that use the SRT are Scarborough residents.
 
It sucks how this line was treated for people in Scarborough, but even then if it was converted to LRT there's still going to be many years of disruption given it was planned for the existing right of way (but maybe 2+ years isn't as bad as 7+). The sensible thing would've been to finish the subway before closing the SRT, but in true Toronto fashion we barely even started construction of the subway.
The RT was basically kaput and everyone knew this. There was no real way to save it. And Subways take a long time to build so there was no way to get it done faster.
 
Taking a cattle car shuttle bus is punishment enough. Private lanes or no, those buses are going to be rammed; and let's be honest with ourselves, the Nova buses of today do not provide anywhere close to as comfortable a ride as the Orions of yesteryear.

Plus, not all of us that use the SRT are Scarborough residents.
I understand what you are saying but this was all foreseen when the decisions were being made and people did their best ostrich impression when it came to the bad things that would come along with that shinny new subway which was well deserved and would turn Scarborough into a transit utopia despite all the stats showing most Scarborough residents use transit within Scarborough and it costing so much Eglinton East was surely going to be cancelled as well.
 
If they are going to shut the RT down anyway they could have saved time and built the subway in the RT corridor's place.
was the bend not too tight? I cant remember....
was there not a conflict with SMARTTRACK and its Lawrence West station? Maybe one of Johns napkins and or staffers remembers?

A spur of a GO line to STC would have been a good idea but that was an attack on poor people because GO fares are too pricy. I thought SMARTTRACK was supposed to solve that but any realistic person always knew SMARTTRACK was just marketing to get elected.

but there was a whole bunch of talk that the RT was built in the middle of nowhere so they wanted the new line to have stations in places people would actually be able to walk to.
 
If they are going to shut the RT down anyway they could have saved time and built the subway in the RT corridor's place.
The problem with that idea is that the main reason the RT is a failure is because of its alignment. It runs through the asscrack of Scarborough and goes to few places people might want to go.
 
If they are going to shut the RT down anyway they could have saved time and built the subway in the RT corridor's place.

This would make more sense, but it wouldn't politically fly, even though now we're having no RT and the subway taking god knows how long to complete.

was the bend not too tight? I cant remember....
was there not a conflict with SMARTTRACK and its Lawrence West station? Maybe one of Johns napkins and or staffers remembers?

A spur of a GO line to STC would have been a good idea but that was an attack on poor people because GO fares are too pricy.

but there was a whole bunch of talk that the RT was built in the middle of nowhere so they wanted the new line to have stations in places people would actually be able to walk to.

They have already lowered most GO fares within the 416, and with the coming fare integration, it wouldn't even have a penalty for transferring to the TTC. However, on a technical level can the SRT guideway support mainline rail GO trains? Heck the SRT has standard gauge so it's theoretically possible by just rebuilding the platforms at STC and scrapping all the other stations.
 

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