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TTC & GO roll out new buses

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TTC rolls out hybrid buses
Feb 12, 2008 04:30 AM
Tess Kalinowski
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New wheels are rolling out in Greater Toronto this year. TTC already has first wave of 500 new hybrid buses in service, while come April, GO riders will board double-deckers from Scotland

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Manufacturer of TTC’s new-wave hybrid buses has redesigned the “humpback†rooftop installations that provide the vehicle with electrical power.

The TTC received the first shipment of its new generation of energy-smart buses in December. The buses are diesel-electric hybrids, using energy captured during braking to power part of their ride.

Although BC Transit, Edmonton and Ottawa have committed for some units, the TTC believes it's the first transit company in Canada undertaking to create hybrids in its fleet. As the second-generation hybrids reach the streets, the TTC will retire its aging GM diesel buses. They are now up to 25 years old; a special maintenance program has kept them rolling well beyond the usual 15-year lifespan.

Cost: $734,000 for a hybrid, compared with $500,000 for diesel buses.

Specs: 12 metres long; 2.6 metres wide; 3.4 metres high; 15,000 kg. weight

Environmental benefits:

37% less greenhouse gas emissions
30-50% less emissions of harmful particulates
30-50% less nitrous oxide emissions
40 tonnes less carbon dioxide output, per bus each year
3-5 decibel reduction in noise levels
20-30% less fuel use (TTC now buys 75 million litres annually)

Where to ride: More than 100 are already on duty, mostly running out of the TTC's Arrow Rd. garage, west of Highway 400 and south of Finch Ave.

What's different: They look a lot like their first-generation cousins. But the manufacturer, Daimler-owned Orion Bus, has redesigned the hybrid mounting on the bus roof for a sleeker look.

All hybrids are low-floor, which means riders board at curb height. A ramp is still needed to provide wheelchair access at curbside.

Hybrids come with air conditioning and bike racks. Their interior features peripheral seating; there are fewer seats at the back, but riders have an easier time reaching the back to stand there.

Seating and capacity: The buses have 36 seats, with a "crushload" capacity of 53 people.

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GO's bus fleet takes high road

GO Transit has ordered 22 double-deckers from Alexander Dennis Ltd. in Edinburgh, Scotland. The city of Ottawa has committed to buying three and might order as many as 100 more.

When:

GO will receive 12 buses this year, including four next month. They'll go into service in April. The GO board recently exercised its option to buy 10 more double-deckers, to be delivered next year.

Efficiencies:

GO would need 17 regular coaches to seat the same number of riders as 12 double-deckers. The bigger buses mean GO needs fewer drivers and spends less on Highway 407 tolls. "On a per-seat basis, this bus is cost-effective," said Allan Robinson, GO's director of equipment development.

Cost:

$10.8 million for the first 12; a more pricey $9.7 million for the second order of 10

Specs:

13 metres long; 2.5 metres wide and 4.3 metres high; will be equipped with bike racks eventually.

Where:

Will travel Highways 403 and 407 on routes from Oakville to Unionville. York University will be their main hub, with stops at Square One and Bramalea. Double-deckers are limited to select routes because they're too tall to fit through many city underpasses. GO's 407 Express service is the fastest growing segment of its ridership, increasing 13 per cent last year while carrying nearly 2.4 million riders.

Seating:

78 seats, 46 on the upper deck, 32 on the lower level, compared with 57 seats in a GO regular coach.
 
GO would need 17 regular coaches to seat the same number of riders as 12 double-deckers. The bigger buses mean GO needs fewer drivers and spends less on Highway 407 tolls. "On a per-seat basis, this bus is cost-effective," said Allan Robinson, GO's director of equipment development.
I would have assumed that the government of the day might have negotiated in the agreement for the sale of the 407 that public transit busses be exempt from tolls, but I guess not.
 
I would have assumed that the government of the day might have negotiated in the agreement for the sale of the 407 that public transit busses be exempt from tolls, but I guess not.

Nope. It was a fire sale.
 
i saw the double decker GO bus picture in the Star this morning. quite a nice looking vehicle. it's definitely going to be a nice feature on some of the roads.
 
I would have assumed that the government of the day might have negotiated in the agreement for the sale of the 407 that public transit busses be exempt from tolls, but I guess not.

I'm guessing that's why they're building a transitway along the entire length of the 407.
 
Would haveve been better if they where smart enough to build the transit way when the highway was first built, so they might not need a design that curves out at each intersection, plus we would have in is service already.


Im wondering whats in that extra hump at the back of the new Hybrids:confused:
 
There are a ton of those new buses on the 39 route - so new they have that new bus smell :D The only issue is whenever it snows - seems everytime we get a heavy snowfall I see atleast two of these busses on the back of two trucks completely dead.
 
I've been on the hybrids twice. Once was on the McCowan North route on the evening commute (one that normally employs the old Fishbowls). The new seating arrangement at the back did wonders to get people to stand towards the back of the bus (although the steps themselves proved to be a bottleneck for standees). I did notice that the bus is quieter- wearing earphones, I could barely hear the bus running, while on other buses the sound of the bus comes through clearly even when I'm wearing earphones. The seats on the new buses are slightly cushioned, something like streetcar seats.

What is surprising is that the new buses don't have automated announcements. I expected the new buses to hit the streets with all the new TTC gadgetry.
 
the new buses are good and I wonder when are those new subway cars coming???
 
These buses are running on St. Clair too. In fact, at least one of pretty much every bus the TTC has in its active fleet is trundling on St. Clair right now. You never know what you're going to get. There is one I see each morning that is a model I have never seen anywhere else before. I'll try and get the manufacturer and number.
 

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