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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

I believe there is a member of this forum who asked Adam Giambrone what form the Transit City LRT lines were going to take, to which the response was "like Spadina".

It seems pretty absurd to think that the only difference between "LRT" and "streetcar in a median ROW" is stop spacing.
 
Somewhat humorously, in the Transit City promo vid, the new TTC trams appear to be running at like 60+ km/h (they are well out pacing cars on Sheppard, with a speed limit of 50 km/h).
 
I'm pretty sure I just saw a streetcar with LED headlights. Anyone know about this?

I can't for the life of me understand why they're updating these cars so much lately (cameras, automatic station calls and displays, now this) if they're all going to the graveyard soon.
 
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The streetcars should be around for at least the next ten years. Plus when they do retire a vehicle they will scrap it for parts and reuse everything they can such as seats, cameras, displays....

Don't know why they are going with LED headlights, maybe they are just trying one out?
 
You think the new cars won't have their own cameras, displays, lights, and seats installed? Seats?

Are the CLRVs and ALRVs really going to be around for another 10 years? They're near ancient as it is.
 
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You think the new cars won't have their own cameras, displays, lights, and seats installed? Seats?

Are the CLRVs and ALRVs really going to be around for another 10 years? They're near ancient as it is.

Sure they are considering there is no order yet for the new one as well funding.

At the same time, Thunderbay can only produce 26 cars a year and at that rate, 2020 could be the date we get the first fleet let alone more cars for the existing fleet.

To get 500 cars here by 2018 when all the lines are supposed to be open, someone has to produce 70 cars a year. 18-24 months to get a prototype here for testing before mass construction starts.

The new LRT will come with cameras, displays, lights, but not sure about seats installed unless TTC planning on ordering another 50 for the existing system. If they add on more cars to the existing order for 204, then there will be seats.

Without the seats, TTC can continue to plan crush load service that we get today.
 
You think the new cars won't have their own cameras, displays, lights, and seats installed? Seats?

Are the CLRVs and ALRVs really going to be around for another 10 years? They're near ancient as it is.

New busses don't come with cameras, stop announcement displays (the new streetcars might), plus they need spare seats and other equipment for all of their different vehicles
 
With proper maintenance, a streetcar can easily last over 40 years. The current fleet could (and were planned to) last quite a bit longer, but there was pressure to replace them early due to the need for low-floor access and a desire for newer technology.
 
With proper maintenance, a streetcar can easily last over 40 years. The current fleet could (and were planned to) last quite a bit longer, but there was pressure to replace them early due to the need for low-floor access and a desire for newer technology.

Philadelphia's SEPTA is still using about 14 re-restored (originally built in 1947) PCC streetcars that had been modernized with all-new control systems, modern turn markers, air-conditioning , and wheelchair lifts. Their numbers are going down.
 
Wires? ...We don't need wires!

PRIMOVE Catenary-Free Technology


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Found this on the Bombardier web site:

Catenary-free tracks for trams and light rail vehicles enhance a city’s attractiveness by providing unobstructed views.

Bombardier’s new PRIMOVE system enables FLEXITY trams to operate catenary-free over varying distances, everywhere, including on underground lines.
Contactless Power Transfer – A World Premiere in Urban Rail Transport

The PRIMOVE system’s outstanding feature is its safe and contactless power transfer. Its electric supply components are invisible, hidden under the vehicle and beneath the track. This is a key benefit in historic or environmentally protected areas of cities.

With its contactless power transfer, our unique PRIMOVE technology:

* Eliminates overhead wires and increases a city’s attractiveness
* Safely transfers inductive power
* Eliminates wear on parts and components
* Operates in all weather and ground conditions

Connected to MITRAC Energy Saver

The PRIMOVE system uses the MITRAC Energy Saver to ensure continuous vehicle operation.

This high-performance solution stores energy during braking and it constantly charges during operation, picking up power from the underground section during catenary-free operation.

Its double layer capacitor technology optimizes energy supply and saves energy. The end result is maximum vehicle performance and constant inductive power levels.

Datasheet is in PDF format at this link.
 
InnoTrans exhibition was held in Berlin at the end of September. It is a major showcase for the light rail industry, with new lauches from the vehicle manufacturers.

Click on this link to see what we missed.

Even Bombardier had something. Click on their link to see some of their highlights.

Photos can been seen at this link. As well, this link will go to a video of the newer Bombardier Flexity-Berlin.


Thanks for pointing to my Innotrans Site:)

Photos can been seen at this link

But these are not "ordinary" photos, but interactive panoramas which can be moved with your mouse in any direction ( 360 degrees around +/- 90 degree up and down) This should give you the feeling to be right there !!:D
 

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