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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

khristopher said:
I've been seeing a lot of the new Flexity's on Queen lately running as 501.
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I've not seen very many at all - the odd mid-day car perhaps. There's none out this morning.

Where did you see this?

It's probably 504, 509, 510, 512, and 514 cars, that all have to run down Queen East, and even Queen West to Bathurst to get to their routes, from the barn on Leslie south of Queen. Many are signed as 501s - and there's a never-ending stream of them at 6 AM or so, as service begins.
 
drum118 said:
Still leaves 4486 to be ship by this weekend to make Q2 schedule
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The Q2 target was to put 16 cars in service. At the end of Q1 there were 67 cars in service (the 67th car being 4468 which entered service on March 21).

So to meet the Q2 target, they need 83 cars in service. If 4466 has been returned, neither 4484, 4485, nor 4486 need to have shipped to still make Q2 (though it would make the 15-car Q3 target tougher).

drum118 said:
4481 getting ready to leave the yard. It was out earlier as a 501 in service car on Queen
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If 4480 and 4481 are indeed in service, then they now have 80 cars in service. To meet the Q2 goal of 16, they only have to get 4466, 4482, and 4484 in service with 11 days to go - which isn't impossible, given they all arrived last week.

Close as it matters, they've made their Q2 goal. They might even exceed it, catching up on Q1 where only 10 of 12 cars entered service.

And with only 15 to enter service in Q3 (two of which have already been received), the Q3 goal seems doable as well (presumably the summer shut down is in there somewhere).

Whether they achieve a 2019 goal of 83 cars (about 21 cars per quarter) probably depends on whether they can do 21 cars in Q4. Which hardly seem onerous, given they are on track for 16 in Q2, without the Kingston assembly line coming into play.

This should play well for the July report to the board, on whether or not to recommend the additional 60 cars.

Either way, it's fantastic work by Bombardier. Only 27 cars entered service in 2017, and 17 in 2016. We've already had 22 cars enter service in 2018, with 5 more already here or apparently en route (4483 and 4485)!
 
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nfitz said:
The Q2 target was to put 16 cars in service. At the end of Q1 there were 67 cars in service (the 67th car being 4468 which entered service on March 21).

So to meet the Q2 target, they need 83 cars in service. If 4466 has been returned, neither 4484, 4485, nor 4486 need to have shipped to still make Q2 (though it would make the 15-car Q3 target tougher).

If 4480 and 4481 are indeed in service, then they now have 80 cars in service. To meet the Q2 goal of 16, they only have to get 4466, 4482, and 4484 in service with 11 days to go - which isn't impossible, given they all arrived last week.

Close as it matters, they've made their Q2 goal. They might even exceed it, catching up on Q1 where only 10 of 12 cars entered service.

And with only 15 to enter service in Q3 (two of which have already been received), the Q3 goal seems doable as well (presumably the summer shut down is in there somewhere).

Whether they achieve a 2019 goal of 83 cars (about 21 cars per quarter) probably depends on whether they can do 21 cars in Q4. Which hardly seem onerous, given they are on track for 16 in Q2, without the Kingston assembly line coming into play.

This should play well for the July report to the board, on whether or not to recommend the additional 60 cars.

Either way, it's fantastic work by Bombardier. Only 27 cars entered service in 2017, and 17 in 2016. We've already had 22 cars enter service in 2018, with 5 more already here or apparently en route (4483 and 4485)!
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27 cars are due by June 29 for this year schedule.

4459 was the last car to be off loaded onto TTC property for 2017. 4459 + 27 = 4486 by June 29 on TTC property.

4466 + 4480-4482 not in service at this time. 4480 & 81 should see service by June 22, but not 4482. 4466 is a toss up from what I have seen. 4482 by June 29

17 cars due for Q3, which is about a car a week.

Based on time frame from car arriving to in service this year compare to the past, cars aren't 100% complete upon arrival. The extra time is to finish the work not done in TB.

4482 was out for testing today and just arrived back at the Barns. The other 3 are in the service bay with 4466 & 4481 GPS having them some where TTC doesn't exist or run to at all.

We know 4483 in transit and 4485 maybe as well. This leaves 4486 to be ship by this weekend by my accounting to be here next Friday at Hillcrest.

I expect to see next to no cars for 2 weeks this summer, to allow for a plant shut down that normally take place.
 
drum118 said:
27 cars are due by June 29 for this year schedule.
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That's the Q1+Q2 target for vehicles in service (presumably on June 30).

Bombardier can achieve the Q2 target, without achieving the Q1 or Q1+Q2 target.

As they've never achieved a quarterly target before, we should be accelerating - not raising the bar (yet).

drum118 said:
5459 was the last car to be off loaded onto TTC property for 2017. 4459 + 27 = 4486 by June 29 on TTC propert.
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The CEO report says "in service", not "on property".

drum118 said:
We know 4483 in transit and 4485 maybe as well.
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I've seen photos of 4485. I don't know 4483 is in transit, though others might.

Heck, I'm not 100% convinced 4466 is even in Toronto. :)


drum118 said:
This leaves 4486 to be ship by this weekend by my accounting to be here next Friday at Hillcrest.
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It wouldn't be in service however in time to meet the 16 in-service during Q2 target that's mentioned in the TTC CEO's report.
 
nfitz said:
I've not seen very many at all - the odd mid-day car perhaps. There's none out this morning.

Where did you see this?

It's probably 504, 509, 510, 512, and 514 cars, that all have to run down Queen East, and even Queen West to Bathurst to get to their routes, from the barn on Leslie south of Queen. Many are signed as 501s - and there's a never-ending stream of them at 6 AM or so, as service begins.
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A lot was exaggerating. They did have 501 on the display though.
 
nfitz said:
That's the Q1+Q2 target for vehicles in service (presumably on June 30).

Bombardier can achieve the Q2 target, without achieving the Q1 or Q1+Q2 target.

As they've never achieved a quarterly target before, we should be accelerating - not raising the bar (yet).

The CEO report says "in service", not "on property".

I've seen photos of 4485. I don't know 4483 is in transit, though others might.

Heck, I'm not 100% convinced 4466 is even in Toronto. :)


It wouldn't be in service however in time to meet the 16 in-service during Q2 target that's mentioned in the TTC CEO's report.
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By this time last year, BBD had delivered 9 in 2017. No matter how the next week or so spins out it's quite an improvement this year.
 
Will we see 4466 in service tomorrow since it has been sitting on track 2 for the last 6 hours, so say the tracker??

4480 is sitting on Track 5 and not sure if it ready for service or waiting for a service bay.

4481 in service bay

4482 out for testing

Any word on 4483=4486??
 
Not in town, but understand 4483 is here and 4486 is ready for pickup.

This means BBD will met Q2 schedule
 
4480 has enter service on 514,

4466 in the service bay

4482 looks like it returning to the Barns after being out all night for testing
 
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