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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

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I don't know if TTC was consulted or gave instructions on deliveries this past month, but certainly CP just hasn't been in a position to do much to spot the deliveries in any logical sequence. Their yards have been stuffed with delayed trains, and there has been a shortage of crews, when trains are delayed it takes a second crew to get them over each subdivision.
The local trains, when they have run, have been running out of hours - just about every delivery to a local siding takes longer because of snow and ice blocking the siding, requiring clearing out switches, etc. Hundreds of railcars have just been sitting around until CP can handle them.
Two of the empty transporter cars ended up in London because it was the only place where there was room to hold them until they could be put on a train back to Thunder Bay. Two are now sitting in a siding up north, because the train they are on had to be parked until it can be recrewed. That could be several days.
There may be new streetcars in Thunder Bay ready to be shipped, once CP can get the transporters over to the Bombardier facility. Time will tell.

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Bombardier is definitely backlogged. Even CN is having issues.
 

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So most of the old streetcars are being decommissioned this year. I think it would be nice if citizens would be able to get first dibs on them for adaptive reuse, rather than the majority going to the scrap heap.

 

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So most of the old streetcars are being decommissioned this year. I think it would be nice if citizens would be able to get first dibs on them for adaptive reuse, rather than the majority going to the scrap heap.


Like reusing them as homeless shelters
 

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Photo on Twitter tonight shows 4531 loaded and 4532 ready for loading in T Bay.

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Does that mean 4530 is in route or ready to be loaded???
 

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So most of the old streetcars are being decommissioned this year. I think it would be nice if citizens would be able to get first dibs on them for adaptive reuse, rather than the majority going to the scrap heap.


I think it'd be a good idea to elevate one onto a couple of poles/columns 30ft in the air and have it as a folly in some future park or parkette. You know that weird cow in Markham, like that. We have lots of planned parks where this could be done. It would just become what it is, a decomissioned streetcar hovering in the air. Am serious, I think it's a great idea. The LRV is quintessentially Toronto, people would be taking photos of it forever, it'd be on postcards. Let's get the ball rolling.
 

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Why can't they just keep some of the old ones on the roads until all the new ones are here? Not having any on the 505 is an absolute pathetic joke.
You are dealing with an CEO who loves buses and take streetcars with a grain of salt. At the same time, time and cost trying to keep the old fleet on the road could be put to better use if they aren't around. ALRV are done this year one way or another. Only 12 cars are showing up with 4 of them last seen a month ago, leaving 8 for service if they return in April.

What do you call 511 with no streetcars?

TTC is using about 20% as spare ratio, which mean about 20 cars at this time that will not be in service at any given time, considering it was to be 10% or less for the first 10 years of service. If TTC went to 10% now, they would have another 10 cars for service, but not enough to do either 511 or 505 without using some buses at this time. Can't run streetcars on 505 until all the work is done on it and that is months away.

Even thought its been stated all exist fleet will be off the road by year end, its a work in process that some cars will be around for a year or 2 more, but final discussion will not take place until the fall.

TTC will be ordering some duel end cars when the next order is place when every that is. Expect they will be for Eglinton east and west extension. It been stated, the Leslie Barns will not be able to handle duel end cars which is odd.

As a note, 4573 has been sitting out side the service bay on the service track for the past 30 plus hours after been in side the past week. It currently sitting on the outbound track waiting either to do a test run or waiting for a service bay to open up. Been here 16 days so far.

Both 4528 & 4529 are currently in the service bay.
 
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It been stated, the Leslie Barns will not be able to handle duel end cars which is odd.

Dual ended cars means dual sided doors, and it could be that the shop tracks in Leslie have multiple obstructions down the left side of the current single-ended vehicles because that wasn't a barrier for servicing them. With a dual end fleet, it would be.
 

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You are dealing with an CEO who loves buses and take streetcars with a grain of salt. At the same time, time and cost trying to keep the old fleet on the road could be put to better use if they aren't around. ALRV are done this year one way or another. Only 12 cars are showing up with 4 of them last seen a month ago, leaving 8 for service if they return in April.

What do you call 511 with no streetcars?

TTC is using about 20% as spare ratio, which mean about 20 cars at this time that will not be in service at any given time, considering it was to be 10% or less for the first 10 years of service. If TTC went to 10% now, they would have another 10 cars for service, but not enough to do either 511 or 505 without using some buses at this time. Can't run streetcars on 505 until all the work is done on it and that is months away.

Even thought its been stated all exist fleet will be off the road by year end, its a work in process that some cars will be around for a year or 2 more, but final discussion will not take place until the fall.

TTC will be ordering some duel end cars when the next order is place when every that is. Expect they will be for Eglinton east and west extension. It been stated, the Leslie Barns will not be able to handle duel end cars which is odd.

As a note, 4573 has been sitting out side the service bay on the service track for the past 30 plus hours after been in side the past week. It currently sitting on the outbound track waiting either to do a test run or waiting for a service bay to open up. Been here 16 days so far.

Both 4528 & 4529 are currently in the service bay.

Who even is the new CEO? He's invisible. I miss Andy Byford. At least he frequently made statements and media appearances. He was a dynamic leader who seemed to work very hard to improve the culture at the TTC and regularly made the effort to communicate with the customer base. This new guy has done fuck all.

How will the city go about ordering more streetcars that we desperately need? That's the last thing Thug Ford would pay for.

Lastly, how is it possible that a few hundred million were spent on a brand-new, state of the art maintenance facility but handling dual ended cars was not factored into the design? There are no words to describe such folly.
 

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Who even is the new CEO? He's invisible. I miss Andy Byford. At least he frequently made statements and media appearances. He was a dynamic leader who seemed to work very hard to improve the culture at the TTC and regularly made the effort to communicate with the customer base. This new guy has done fuck all.

How will the city go about ordering more streetcars that we desperately need? That's the last thing Thug Ford would pay for.

Lastly, how is it possible that a few hundred million were spent on a brand-new, state of the art maintenance facility but handling dual ended cars was not factored into the design? There are no words to describe such folly.

The new CEO is pretty hideous, Rick Leary. He really seems to think that as Drum was saying, streetcars are a third class transportation mode
 

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