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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

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... yes, construction bustitution does start on February 17th for 501L
I'd heard that, but if you look at the construction tender, the original closing date of December 6 has slipped to January 31. This makes me wonder if construction won't be starting in February, and bustitution will be delayed. Though it wouldn't be the first time that TTC switched to buses long before construction started.

Though the bigger impact is not the 501L bustitution but the ones for 501A and 504A, which reduces the streetcar demand by another 14 or so cars.

They will also freed up 8 cars from 503 with the January 6 2019 board, and the was 8 cars from October 2018 when they cut back on the 504/514 service. That's at least 21 and up to 37 cars available for additional service, somewhere.

... but those 7 could also be used for 511.
It only takes about 12 CLRVs to run 511.

Additional options are the 4 or so cars needed to remove AM peak buses on 506, 7 cars for 502, and 18 cars for 505.
 

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I'd heard that, but if you look at the construction tender, the original closing date of December 6 has slipped to January 31. This makes me wonder if construction won't be starting in February, and bustitution will be delayed. Though it wouldn't be the first time that TTC switched to buses long before construction started.

Though the bigger impact is not the 501L bustitution but the ones for 501A and 504A, which reduces the streetcar demand by another 14 or so cars.

They will also freed up 8 cars from 503 with the January 6 2019 board, and the was 8 cars from October 2018 when they cut back on the 504/514 service. That's at least 21 and up to 37 cars available for additional service, somewhere.

It only takes about 12 CLRVs to run 511.

Additional options are the 4 or so cars needed to remove AM peak buses on 506, 7 cars for 502, and 18 cars for 505.

Apologize for getting off-topic, but 511 will get streetcars back sometime between February and April, not 502 or 505. 505 still has the water main work along Dundas, and 502, who knows when it will get them back. I think likely the busitution for 501L will happen first with February Board, and construction will pick up eventually.
 

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^Speaking of "the last CLRV" the oldest left in the fleet was on service yesterday on route 506: 4002. It's in amazingly good condition considering the age, but as the driver who was loving it explained, it was part of the rebuild tranche. For all the 'limitations' of the older design, it braked and tracked a hell of a lot better than the Flexities. Braking on the Flexities leaves a huge amount to be desired. Smooth it isn't, but of course, the design was never intended for on-road use, it was for dedicated RoWs where stop and go traffic isn't an issue.

Whatever, it was good to ride 4002, and will be for the next while at least.
 

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^Speaking of "the last CLRV" the oldest left in the fleet was on service yesterday on route 506: 4002. It's in amazingly good condition considering the age, but as the driver who was loving it explained, it was part of the rebuild tranche. For all the 'limitations' of the older design, it braked and tracked a hell of a lot better than the Flexities. Braking on the Flexities leaves a huge amount to be desired. Smooth it isn't, but of course, the design was never intended for on-road use, it was for dedicated RoWs where stop and go traffic isn't an issue.

Whatever, it was good to ride 4002, and will be for the next while at least.

I have to admit, I don't like the breaking on the Flexities either. It throttles sometimes. The reason 4002 is in great condition is because it is a candidate for a CLRV the TTC might preserve.
 

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Apologize for getting off-topic, but 511 will get streetcars back sometime between February and April, not 502 or 505. 505 still has the water main work along Dundas, and 502, who knows when it will get them back. I think likely the busitution for 501L will happen first with February Board, and construction will pick up eventually.
I hadn't realised that there were more phases of watermain work on Dundas - gosh until Fall 2019 - https://www.toronto.ca/community-pe...t-watermain-replacement-and-road-resurfacing/

Though once they are just between University and Bay in Spring 2019, I wonder if they'd restore streetcars, and just detour it ... shame there aren't any eastbound curves at McCaul. Perhaps Dundas has seen it's last scheduled CLRV already!

So with 8 cars from 503 in January and 21 cars being freed up in February (or March/April), restoring 12 (as rumoured) for Bathurst seems a no-brainer, I'm not sure why they wouldn't also get rid of buses on 502 and 506, which would only require another 11 or so cars.

Though restoring some of the 504 service-cuts - particularly off-peak, along Broadview and Roncesvalles would be appreciated by me!

I assume the next route for Flexity's after 501 will be 511. Not impossible we'll be seeing some there as soon as the route is restored, on Sundays at least.
 

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I hadn't realised that there were more phases of watermain work on Dundas - gosh until Fall 2019 - https://www.toronto.ca/community-pe...t-watermain-replacement-and-road-resurfacing/

Though once they are just between University and Bay in Spring 2019, I wonder if they'd restore streetcars, and just detour it ... shame there aren't any eastbound curves at McCaul. Perhaps Dundas has seen it's last scheduled CLRV already!

So with 8 cars from 503 in January and 21 cars being freed up in February (or March/April), restoring 12 (as rumoured) for Bathurst seems a no-brainer, I'm not sure why they wouldn't also get rid of buses on 502 and 506, which would only require another 11 or so cars.

Though restoring some of the 504 service-cuts - particularly off-peak, along Broadview and Roncesvalles would be appreciated by me!

I assume the next route for Flexity's after 501 will be 511. Not impossible we'll be seeing some there as soon as the route is restored, on Sundays at least.

I would like to see the Roncesvalles service cut in particular restored, but knowing TTC, it will not happen. I don't know about 502 getting them back, 506 might happen with those extra cars, 511 will be getting them back ( it is not a rumour ) just sometime, between February and April, and Flexities will likely be deployed there once 501A is done, and likely will stay through the summer. I don't know if streetcars on 511 will be a full time thing though, usually they are just there for the summer season.
 
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4520 out testing on 506 at Coxwell

4572 is in the yard on track 13 at the front and the first time out of the service bay in a week.

4518 & 19 GPS all over the place.

Nothing for 4521 yet
 

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4520 out testing on 506 at Coxwell

4572 is in the yard on track 13 at the front and the first time out of the service bay in a week.

4518 & 19 GPS all over the place.

Nothing for 4521 yet

Gonna keep a eye on 4572's GPS to see if it enters service on Monday. I suspect it will.
 

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4521 is now tracking
4572, 4518-21 all in the service bay. Could be a problem with 4572 as it was moved a number of times yesterday in the yard to various tracks and in the service bay at 6 am today.
 

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4520 out testing on 506 at Coxwell

4572 is in the yard on track 13 at the front and the first time out of the service bay in a week.

4518 & 19 GPS all over the place.

Nothing for 4521 yet

Just saw 4519 heading WB on Queen testing.
 

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Looks like 4518 will enter service on Wed as its on track 19 in the yard.

4519/20 out testing

4572 & 4521 in the service bay
 

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