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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

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These are programmed into the system, so any destination that's not a regularly scheduled terminus (construction service notwithstanding), it would pop up as a short turn.
Any idea why the short-turn location is only announced on the outside of the car, instead of the inside?

More than once, I've jumped on a streetcar that I've had to run to, and not had a time to read all the signage. And then seen/heard the short-turn announcements. And had to go stand near a door, so I could hear the outside-only announcement on where the turn was.

Pretty predictable on Spadina perhaps ... but on 504 anything is possible ... particularly eastbound approaching Broadview, where you have to guess if it's going to go north to Dundas, or east to Leslie (or even north at Parliament ... or south to Distillery these days).
 

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Inside of the car, it says "Short Turn and then Stop X"

4486 is now tracking

4485 is heading eastbound on the Lake Shore near Humber Loop
 

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4487 making its first test run and westbound on Queens St west of Bathurst. Most likely be doing testing out in Long Branch after been here 13 days.

4488 & 89 not tracking yet.

Other than 4487, everything in the service bay.

Wouldn't be surprise if 4483 enter service on Thursday, since it been here 19 days already, with 15 days been the norm these days.
 

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Typical City of Toronto procedures took place today; defer, delay, and stall until the sun don't shine. This time, the TTC board has deferred to make a decision on procuring more streetcars until early 2019:

https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-news/ttc-board-defers-decision-on-next-order-for-streetcars-982142
Given this an election year, no one wants this item on their watch to lose an election. Then, there is no funds at hand to place a tender, but thats a cop out.

Thunder Bay could see its door close come 2020 with the completion of TTC and GO Transit orders, with any other work going to other BBD plants.

The 60 option cars could go to Kingston or Quebec in place of Thunder Bay.
 

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Hunn!! 4483 operation on route 185-Don Mills Rocket???

Westbound on King At John St at 2:50 pm

4483 has enter service at 2:58 on Bathurst St at Fort York Blvd and to become an 509

LOL.............3:10 has 4485 in service on Dufferin St route 29 northbound south of Dundas. 4472 in service on York Mills Route 95
 
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Both 4483 & 4485 Still have the wrong GPS routes for them.

4483 still on 509

4485 has turn eastbound onto King from Dufferin Loop and must be on a 503/504 route..........now going north on Dufferin at Dundas

4486 still in the service bay

4487 heading to Long Branch as an in service 501 car for testing

4488 is now tracking

4489 not tracking
 

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The GPS is still nuts like yesterday and no idea if 4483 and 4485 are in service yet.

4485 is currently on Finch as route 36 and following the route like it did for Dufferin 29 yesterday at this time. Looking under buses assign to route 36, 4485 is listed there as well.

Understand same issues with buses as well.

4483 is on King as a route 7 and no idea if it is an 504, or a 509 or a 512 or a test car based where its. The GPS has it going from in service to a dot back and forth. It even has the car disappearing to jumping back and forth to where it was a minute ago.

Until yesterday, never seen this issues and still happening today

After checking a number of other cars, all showing up on various routes with the correct route number. 4479 is on 512 as an 89 bus, 4472 on 510 as route 59, 4469 on the service track in the yard on route 86, 4466 at Union loop on route 45, 4467 on King St as route 145, 4470 on King on route 79 and haven't check all car.

Anyone around the various route should check for 4453 & 85 to see what they are really operating as and let us know. Thanks
 

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Done, done, and on to the next one..... (sorry, still humming Foo Fighters after last night's concert....)

The next one - presumably 4490 - is on its way across Northern Ontario this morning.

- Paul
 

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Are the ALRV'S being retired ? There were only 2 in service when I last checked, both on 501 Queen.
The tracker shows only 11 cars, with 2 (4216 & 4229) on 501 at this time. One 4212 is at Hillcrest last seen 16 days ago, one 4243 at Roncy, one 4217 at the Barns that was last seen 17 days ago and the rest at Russell last seen a few seconds ago.

At the rate they are dieing, will be gone before the year is out.

I have heard there is a charter tour schedule for Aug, but no info on it.

As a note, 4483 is a dot operating on 510 and confirm it went into service yesterday.

4485 is in the lake and no confirm info if it is in service yet.

4486 in the service bay along with 4488. 4487 out in Long Branch doing testing. Nothing for 4489 at this time.
 
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Are the ALRV'S being retired ? There were only 2 in service when I last checked, both on 501 Queen.
They are literally crumbling apart as we speak. It's getting to the point the buses have started to supplement streetcar service on the 501 since there are not enough streetcars available.
 

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4486 testing northbound on Spadina right now. It has a huge “pay here” decal slapped on the side of a the S&B fare machine where it says fare/transfer. Don’t know if any other car has this.
EDIT: here’s a horrible photo of it
 

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4489 is now tracking

The tracker is showing only 19 ALRV's, with 2 haven't been seen for 20 days. One on 511 and 3 on 501.
 

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They are literally crumbling apart as we speak. It's getting to the point the buses have started to supplement streetcar service on the 501 since there are not enough streetcars available.

Anecdotally, I can tell you about 50% of the streetcars I see on Queen now are ALRV, which is down obviously from then it was 100%.

But no, they don't have buses running to supplement streetcars on the 501. My office literally looks out onto Queen West. I've seen none since they stopped running the 501L for Long Branch, when they were rebuilding the Humber loop and bridge. It's now 100% streetcar from Long Branch to Neville Park.
 

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