Is Siemens-Alstom going to take as long as Bombardier to design and deliver vehicles for the Eglinton Crosstown?
One already exists (Alstom Citadis Spirit - see Ottawa Confederation LRT) but will never see service on the Crosstown since Metrolinx will have all it's ordered cars from Bombardier (sans welding issue) by the time they actually need them.
Streetcars are Siemens-Alstom's wheelhouse, judging by their top position in the global market. There must be a reason that the resurgence in LRTs and streetcars in the USA has led to no business for the Flexity program.And I bet Edmonton's procurement team is mighty worried that they just bought a lemon. They were in 2016.....
Please stop calling the product a lemon when other manufacturers products would have the same teething issues as the Flexity Outlook which is in and of itself would be a result of having to conform with the requirements of the TTC streetcar network. As for Edmonton, they aren't worried about their selected Flexity Freedom product since it has proven itself to be a superior product in Waterloo despite the production issues. (I've bolded the model names since apparently people can't tell the difference)
Will Bombardier agree to cover the cost to ship it back to Montreal for re-welding, like the TTC's vehicles?
Only the first three manufactured in Thunder Bay had parts from Mexico. Bombardier moved frame production for the Flexity Freedom to La Pocatiere, QC when they moved Flexity Freedom production to Millhaven.
All of those ones were manufactured entirely in Vienna, Austria (using the existing European supply chain which has supplied that plant for decades) and shipped assembled to their destination. We could have had them shipped from Vienna already assembled but Ontario requires that all transit procurement meet a 25% minimum Canadian Content requirement which Siemens indicated its opposition to during the RFP for the 204 car order that Bombardier won for the Flexity Outlook.Really, so those models were built in Mexico and then shipped to Europe and Oz for final assembly? Did their cabs line up correctly with the chassis, or did they need to crowbar things to fit? And how were the welds? If Toronto's models are simply local versions of existing vehicles, suggesting Bombardier should have experience in this model, why did we have these problems?
Sure let's advocate for wasting $2 billion + procuring 204 more cars unnecessarily from a company who's product would have the same teething issues, be subject to the 25% Canadian Content requirement and not be immune from the same welding issues recall as the Bombardier order. Cause that makes total sense. /sI'm not buying it. Finish the current procurement with BBR, and ask Siemens-Alstom and others to bid on the Flexity's replacement.